okay. i guess i msiunderstood your original comment. it seemed like you were saying it wasn't good enough. i just wanted to engage in a conversation about how to say it better because i thought the top level propaganda seemed like the best i could think of and if we can do better we should do better. so i asked you what would be better and you said "lots of stuff" which seemed like intentionally dodging the question without doing anything constructive to me, which made the overall conversation seem combative. at that point i got annoyed and said "just come out an. say them then"

so this is all rooted in me misunderstanding your original intent, i guess. it came across to me as the opposite of what you're saying now