The House of Representatives is trying to pass a resolution making the term “Free Palestine” an official antisemitic slogan.

Republican Representative Gabe Evans from Colorado introduced the resolution in the wake of the attack on a gathering for Israeli hostages in Boulder this week. Mohammed Sabry Soliman, an Egyptian national, has been charged for the attack, during which he yelled “Free Palestine,” according to the FBI.

“Whereas, while shouting ‘Free Palestine,’ an antisemitic slogan that calls for the destruction of the state of Israel and Jewish people, Mohammed Sabry Soliman attacked the peaceful demonstrators with homemade Molotov cocktails,” the resolution reads. House Republicans are expected to vote on the nonbinding resolution next week.

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[–] 84 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Are Republicans against being free?

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  • [–] 75 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Next up, Republicans prepare bill declaring "Black Lives Matter" is racist against white people.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    And to preempt any "all lives matter" bullshit:

    Nazi lives don't matter

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)

    All racial groups lives matter.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    People who say things like this usually act like black and brown lives don't matter.

    Which is the crux of the problem.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Which is literally the message of "black lives matter."

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Black lives matter means all racial groups lives matter? Wouldn't that imply all racial groups are black?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I know it might be difficult to grasp, but no.

    The point of the slogan is to bring attention to the fact that, in countless ways, black lives are currently treated as if they matter less. On a systemic level. So before you say I'm calling you racist, that's not what's happening.

    It might make more sense if you mentally add the word "too" at the end of it. "Black Lives Matter too" is pretty much the gist of it.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    This coming from the same motherfuckers that brought you classics like:

    "We have to let the Nazis march in the park this weekend, freeze peach"

    And

    "The klan is just a bunch of good 'ol boys, they never hurt nobody"

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Inciting violence is not within that criteria, hate black ppl, jews, men, women, muslims or immigrants all you want, you're just showing the world how much of an ignorant uneducated dickhead you are but groups like the nazis do incite real violence against real people. Some people also manipulate real facts to suit their narrative.

    We need to let people be clowns and treat them as such, laugh at them and if they're wrong their lies will be debunked. Stopping people from saying something won't change their mind, it'll convince them they're right. And if you can't argue against the opinion instead of silencing it you were probably wrong.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Why were you down voted for that? It's ridiculous. It's literally a paraphrasing of Thomas Paine saying, "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." FFS. That IS freedom of speech.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    What view points do the right wing wing have that you feel need to be heard?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    None that come to mind. Relevance?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You’re saying right wing (Racist, sexist, homophobic, etc…) speech has as much right to be heard as any other speech. Can you back that up with examples, please?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm supposed to provide examples of horrible speech that has the right to exist? WTF?

    The first amendment DOES have limitations. I think yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is often cited.

    Also platforms can control that speech because they own the platform and can forbid it as part of their terms. And I wish they would.

    If you can't see that suppressing the speech of people who think opposite of you is exactly what they would do to you, then there's not much I can say. I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Can you elaborate on what you’re trying to say? Cause it really comes across as though you’re saying hate speech has a right to be said as much as any other speech…

    We don’t have the first amendment, so that doesn’t really feel relevant to me.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I believe in free speech. The first amendment is easily looked up.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I believe it free speech. I don’t believe in hate speech, or think it has a reason to be heard. So I’ll ask again…why do you want hate speech to be heard?

    I know what the first amendment is, I just don’t feel it applies here as we’re on the internet and it only applies to one country.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    shouting ‘Free Palestine,’ an antisemitic slogan that calls for the destruction of the state of Israel and Jewish people

    Holy fucking Moses. It absolutely does not call for that.

    "I love X."

    "Why do you hate and want to destroy Y, huh? You piece of shit, fuck X. Y is the best!"

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You would think they would start with an easier one like "heil Hitler" being antisemitic, but they seem perfectly okay with that one.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    1st amendment baby. Can’t be made illegal and they can’t redefine just like they can’t redefine pi as 3.14. It simply isn’t antisemitism to call for the liberation of an oppressed people.

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    Jewish man here.

    FREE PALESTINE!

    Israel is a terror state.

    The USA is a rogue state.

    Get your pitchforks.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Didn't Orwell have something to say about redefining words and phrases. Well, even if he didn't, yikes.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Boy is my face gonna be red when they "deport" my ass because I'm Jewish. So many people in my community still think the leopards are gonna get full before eating their faces.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm not antisemitic. I know that I'm not, even if I can't prove that to anyone who cannot see into my mind. But in words and actions, I've never done or said anything antisemitic.

    I believe that Palestine should be free. Passing a law isn't going to change my mind or affect my behavior. If someone calls me antisemitic, they're either mistaken or lying. Passing a law won't change the truth behind their words.

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  • [+] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Not be contrarian, but this is a common misconception. Hate speech IS protected speech in the US, but it can be used to enhance the punishment of a related crime into a hate crime.

    It can also, under specific circumstances, be considered "fighting words". But again, that depends on the specific context and is not broadly true.

    This is one of my least favorite facts, but it is unfortunately true

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    [–] [S] 45 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Remember kids, this is cheapening the word anti-Semitism and making it more and more meaningless. In the long run, this will hurt Jews. (Who do you think will be blamed by the fascists for US imperial over-extension?)

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    [E: Republicans] portraying Jews collectively, universally as perpetrators of genocide seems antisemitic and hurts Jews.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And when you see someone conflating all Jews with the Israeli government, you are free, nay encouraged, to call that shit out.

    But guess what's NOT happening in this thread? Or this entire comment section?

    Israel is committing genocide.

    Sincerely, your friendly neighborhood Jew

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Look guys, if the people who go around blaming Jews for trying to replace white people say Free Palestine is antisemitic, who are we to argue? I never knew space lasers could be so Jewish until the authorities on antisemitism enlightened me. Was it not a nutcase conservative who taught you the power of a few parenthesis? They're the experts here.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Palestinians are semites. Also being against genocide isn't antisemitism

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Saving people a quick search.

    What is meant by semitic people?

    Semitic describes a group of languages — including Hebrew and Arabic — as well as the people who traditionally speak them. Semitic is rooted in the Biblical name Shem, the son of Noah, who is traditionally thought of as the direct ancestor of the Jews and Arabs.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago

    "Semites" as a description of a set of people is as much antiquated a terminology as the word "Aryans". In fact it was Ernest Renan that first made that distinction in the 19th century to specifically frame history as a tension between Semites and Aryans (cf Hannah Arendt). It's of course just a bunch of scientific racism bollocks. And it is precisely because of that that the term "antisemitism" has always meant hatred of Jews in particular (in the "Jews vs Aryans" sense).

    The only term that persists in the sciences today is the term "semitic languages", which is basically similar to "indo-european languages", and which of course has nothing to do with antisemitism.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Land of the free!

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I'm glad they can just decide what we should think.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Okay, then liberate Palestine!

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    our politicians are shameless cuckolds for aipac. american working class is having the worst crisis since great depression and these hacks are busy deepthroating genocider scum

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Please remember guys that "Free USA" is antichristian!

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How does the end result (Palestine is free) look in detail?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Realistically let's start with actual control over Gaza and the West Bank and access to, you know, stuff like food, water, medicine, education, and other things considered "human rights" when it's related to the right people. Abolishing illegal settlements would be welcomed as well.

    Israel should've never existed but it does and it will continue to do so.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Palestine will be free. Got 'em!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I wonder how few democrats will vote nay.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Even the actual Nazis werent as bold as to start calling other people Nazis just to distract from themselves.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    I find it anti-Semitic to equate pro-genocide with Judaism.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I’m not anti-semetic. My dentist is Jewish.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    What always stuck me as odd with that attack on the Israeli's was that the cops didn't blast that guy full of holes the moment they got there. I always thought it was a very out of character show of restraint from the same cops that shoot black children out the window of their car if they see them with a stick in their hands.

    I know it's fucking mad to suggest such a thing, but was it a false flag attack? Intended to give some credence to future "antisemitism" measures like this?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What happened to "America First"?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    No human should be treated as less than another. No human should be seen as offensive to another.

    Why is Great Britain not getting so much fucking hate for how they historical contributed to this conflict? If people are wanting to legalize hate towards the humanitarian treatment of a whole territory and people, why is the nation that contributed to their existence not being criticized?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh well, they can label me what they want. This does nothing to change my mind.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Sure, call me any ugly name you choose—

    The steel of freedom does not stain.

    From those who live like leeches on the people's lives,

    We must take back our land again,

    America!

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