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[–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Even if cryptocurrencies weren't a giant scam - and in fairness, at the beginning, they weren't - did you really think the governments of the world would just idly let randos take control of money out of their hands?

I refer you to Amschel Rothschild's famous quote:

Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws!

I'm actually surprised that the authorities around the world have tolerated crypto for so long. It probably has something to do with corruption, and the fact that it's really just a scam and not sustainable in the long run.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Bitcoin already has problems because it was designed in a time when people took Moore's Law as inevitable fact.

    I think crypto is probably here to stay but I'm certain that it won't become a viable day to day currency without state action, and if they do crypto loses the majority of its point.

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    [–] 40 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    To be fair, the author has a good point, but we knew this was coming, and Bitcoin did nothing to prevent it. Monero, however, did.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children)

    what did Monero do to prevent it?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It doesn't need mixing because the protocol itself hides the sender, the receiver, and the amount as due course.

    This stuff is basically banning any privacy-preserving technology on a public blockchain, like Bitcoin, since it has no privacy by default.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    but we do use self custody wallets, which is actually a good thing. and we do churn, because the anonymity set of the sender (right?) is pretty limited as of now. and churning is almost like mixing between wallets.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Monero does not "churn" it uses ring signatures. And that is done by default and enforced by the protocol. Any transaction that attempted not to do it would be considered invalid.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    monero does not, but it's users do manually. at least not too long ago it was recommended in the community

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I have not seen that recommendation. In fact, from everything I've heard, it's better not to attempt churning because it could reduce your anonymity, especially if you fuck up and do it in a predictable manner, like during a certain set of hours that might indicate your time zone.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Surveillance state adds suveillance🙃

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's the equivalent of farmers voting for trump and getting screwed over, Bitcoin bros are next in line

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    ...yet. Authoritarianism creeps, it crawls silently, strategically, meticulously, knowing that far too few will notice or care until it's too late.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm sorry, but WHAT?

    The US has been detaining citizens to foreign countries without due process.

    Supreme court validated ICE raids in cities.

    This is not 'authoritarianism creeping', it's just doing a victory lap.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yes, but that didn't happen overnight. The authoritarian creep had been happening long before, but it's important to remember that they don't yet have total control; they can do a lot of horrible things with impunity, certainly, but they need to keep up appearances and move more slowly with other things so they have less resistance from whatever remains of the judiciary.

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  • it's never lupus lookin ass

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    As reminder crypto are being centralized so it is looking more like traditional finance. Coinbase holds over 12% of all Bitcoin and 11% of staked Ether.

    https://coinlaw.io/coinbase-users-statistics/

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    That's everything of value. All a well decentralized ledger could do is make it incredibly hard to block transactions, change the parameters for total coin supply and dispersion rate. Don't know why anyone expected anything in terms of more even wealth distribution. Wealth distribution is determined by off chain factors. Factors no different than any other value store

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's my understanding that Monero actually provide anonymous transactions.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    big deal, and fascism. NATO colonies copying the fascism is to be expected. Spirit of 2nd amendment is spirit of right to resist.

    Patriot Act's name is meant to distract from fascist powers within it, and while bitcoin is not super anonymous if you use techniques that are now recommended to "crackdown", there is improvement.

    Bitcoin's superiority over gold is the ability to move to a more welcoming jurisdiction without border confiscation, or luggage weight, concerns, and so US/Colonies crackdown on "definancialization rights" may well lead to wealth drain from the empire.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Ironically this does not prevent technologies like Monero from becoming the next big platform; nor will it really prevent people from evacuating their coins to a more private and self-custodial wallet.

    In general it really only puts a few more onerous steps into the equation where there will be fences and people who are expected to digitally mule bitcoin around.

    In the same manner that organized criminals work around modern financial regulations aimed at capturing them; they can also work around regulations surrounding Bitcoin itself; and once the Bitcoin itself is fenced off into a Monero or other privacy preserving coin; it will remain there 'burned' or get 'laundered' by a group of gang members a few hundred times to re-mint coins clean enough to be re-deposited and re-used in the same manner.

    It won't matter in the long run that they are tracking the provenance of every satoshi. Especially not if it's far too common that anyone making a suspicious move turns out to be a privacy conscious, law-abiding, yet innocent citizen.

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    [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    that is hilarious and completely negates the entire point of why bitcoin was made in the first place.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Conservatives ruin everything. Lol. But to be honest, bitcoin is just a big scam.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And fiat currencies subjected to control and manipulation only by a cabal of bankers no one votes for and who are printed into oblivion without being backed by any tangible value or hard asset is better?

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