you got westerns, congratulations! : D
we all get a time period, event, or civilization when we are entering our 30's. i got world war 2.
you got westerns, congratulations! : D
we all get a time period, event, or civilization when we are entering our 30's. i got world war 2.
Western are really underestimated, to say the least. Obviously, there is a lot of crap but also a lot of great (and daring) content.
I swear modern movies just have actors narrating and renarrating what they’re doing because they know you’re on your phone not really paying attention.
/me (sadly but) approvingly nodding. Either it is because the audience is not paying attention or because the audience is (quickly) losing its ability to follow a story-line and needs things to be constantly and heavily underlined for them?
If you're looking for suggestions, I really liked "My Name is Nobody".
With obvious exceptions like "Blazing Saddles", I had figured that most of the old Westerns were the same sort of tense, action-fests.
While those are great, I was surprised to find "My Name is Nobody" to be a legitimately funny comedy and also intriguing.
If you just stick with Clint Eastwood flicks for a while, you're in for a treat.
"Two Mules for Sister Sara" was another great one.
There have also been some more contemporary westerns that "get it".
I think the opening to "The Harder They Fall' is an homage of sorts to Van Cleef's introduction as Angle Eyes in "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly".
"The Old Way" is a Nicholas Cage romp that's also interesting.
If you like My Name Is Nobody, you may also enjoy They Call Me Trinity. I haven't seen My Name Is Nobody, so I can't compare them, but they are both Western comedies co-starring Terence Hill, so it wouldn't surprise me if they have some similarities. Trinity also has a sequel, but I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.
Two Mules is such a great movie. Saw it as a kid, and many times since. Each time I pickup some new nuance, as I've learned more about life and the history of Mexico.
Also, I realized that when a cowboy does a super quick draw and shoots 3 men before they can draw it’s just like an anime when there is a flash and the hero sheathes their sword, with enemies falling over dead.
Makes sense, especially for Fistful of Dollars, Few Dollars More, and The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Fistful was the Western version (as in shot for shot remake) of Kurosawa's Yojimbo, a samurai movie. Anime also got it from samurai flicks and Kurosawa was the guy for that. He made more money from the Fistful of Dollars settlement than he did from Yojimbo, though.
For even more (out possibly much less because it's not great) fun, there's a movie called The Warrior and the Sorceress that's also a remake of the same film, except it's fantasy and has a topless sorceress running around. It's got David Carradine playing a character named Kain. It came out during the sword and sorcery boom of the 80s (Conan, Sword and the Sorcerer, Deathstalker, Beastmaster, and a bunch of others). Speaking of other Sword and Sorcery flicks, at last one of the scenes is recycled from Deathstalker.
I'll ask since you seem to know about westerns. I'm trying to figure out the best John Wayne movies to watch and there seems to be a mixed consensus on which ones are good hooks for his many movies. Do you have any recommendations? I have no experience at all with his movies and only want to watch them because my dad is a huge fan. Unfortunately my dad just passed so I can no longer ask him which ones I should watch but I want to get an appreciation for the things my dad cared about.
Depends on what you're looking for, honestly. I'm partial to The Cowboys, Sons of Katie Elder, and El Dorado. My brother is a big Rio Bravo, Big Jake, True Grit, and Donovan's Reef fan (the last is not a Western but when I texted him he insisted that I include it, I completely disagree). True Grit is probably the "best" one, and The Searchers gets recommended a lot.
I read your first sentence and panicked. I know about those movies in particular because of the Kurosawa ordeal (and really liked all three). I watched John Wayne as a kid and young man with my grandfather. Other than that maybe Bone Tomahawk, Tombstone, and The Quick and the Dead are the only ones I've seen. Oh! And Seven Samurai (also Kurosawa),The Magnificent Seven, and parts of Star Wars.
Aren't El Dorado and Rio Bravo the same story with different actors?
I'd give Donovan's Reef a mention, though it definitely isn't a western. I'd put it in the WWII genre.
True Grit and Big Jake are great character studies, trying to understand why he (and other characters) behave the way they do, why the relationships between characters are what they are.
Aren't El Dorado and Rio Bravo the same story with different actors?
Yep! I like Robert Mitchum. I also like the fact that John Wayne was older and less invincible. They also did Rio Lobo but my brother and I agree that was the worst one.
One of my greatest mindfucks was high plains drifter when the protagonist
spoiler
rapes a woman but it's later revealed that he's probably an undead spirit of vengeance and she 'deserved' her fate.
That's a tough one, in every way. It's not obvious what he is, and what's going on.
Great movie though - very different than a typical western.
Italian westerns are so much better than American westerns. The characters are actually complex. Sometime check out the movie that’s spawned the genre: Django
you should watch the OG Cowboy Bebop! it's anime cowboy bounty hunters... in space!
pretty much a Western set in the near future/present.... many direct homages to old Western movies throughout.
Fully agree on the modern movies spoon feeding (or at least, most mainstream ones.)
I'm lucky, there's a little indie theatre about a joints' walk away from my place so I've caught a few great Westerns there. As much as I loves them, I know if I'd been at home, the distractions/phone/cat/anything else etc would've been overwhelming on hour 2 or 3 of slow panning across a desert vista...
There's a couple comedy Westerns with James Garner that I'll watch whenever they come up:
Support Your Local Sheriff
Support Your Local Gunfighter
Similar story in both, James Garner is great at his Jim Rockford persona.
Some other westerns:
Once Upon a Time in the West
Angel and the Badman (younger John Wayne, black&white)
Hellfighters is John Wayne, but not a western.
Garner was a good human. Picked up complete set of Rockford files. Watched the reruns as a kid. Ran through all of them and I'll rewatch it this winter. The reoccurring themes crack me up : always fires up a cig , rolling reverse 180° in the firebird to escape, gets beat up , beats somebody up, takes out a pretty lady for dinner, has trouble getting paid his $150 per day plus expenses.
The guy was a real race car driver , did a lot of driving in movies where other actors used substitutes. He was a genuine bad ass and all around solid cat.
The "support" movies were great.
A great fuckin western is Sergio Corbucci's " the Great Silence"
1968 ; Klaus fuckin Kinski , Jean Louis Trintignant
The ending will fuck your head up. Alternate ending with the DVD version
Watch that shit !
You may enjoy older samurai movies as well. The Magnificent Seven and 7 Samurai are basically the same movie. Really any Kurosowa movie. I enjoy older movies for the pacing and how they weren't afraid to let silence be its own statement.
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