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[–] 105 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Folks have already pointed out the whole "multiple teams of sled dogs" thing.

The dogs also weren't delivering vaccine. They were delivering diphtheria antitoxin, which is a treatment for diphtheria, not an inoculation. The kids were already sick.

There was technically a vaccine for diphtheria then (it was invented in 1923, two years before this epidemic), but it wouldn't have saved anyone who'd already caught the infection.

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  • [–] 91 points 1 year ago

    Thats right, because Togo did it. Balto was just given all the credit becuse he did the final leg.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Well you're right. Balto didn't do it.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Fuckin stolen valor asshole dog

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He was a good boy, don't blame him for what people did.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Fuck that. Balto's owner was the asshole. Balto himself and his team were sold and spent years malnourished and chained to a sled in a freak show wondering what they did wrong, and when they were finally "rescued" they wound up in a zoo. Well fed, but in cages while people gawked at them. Balto watched the rest of his team die one by one until he himself died blind and paralyzed.

    Togo spent the rest of his life with his family. Neither dog knew they were famous or why, but Togo knew he was loved.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I think Togo won in the end, because Balto and his sled team basically became freak show animals and later live museum exhibits, chained and starving, like they weren't living creatures at all. They were later rescued and ended their days as zoo animals. After Balto died he was stuffed and put in a museum.

    Meanwhile Togo and his team went on tours, were given gold medals, continuing their lives as sled dogs and Togo got to retire in a nice kennel where he was bred and lived well until he was euthanized at the age of 16 due to health complications.

    Don't feel bad for Togo. He may have been largely forgotten to history, but he sure as shit won the life lottery compared to Balto.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Also he finally got a pretty good movie starring Willem Dafoe.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Haven't seen it, but I'll put it on my watch list! 👍

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    You'll have to sail the high seas. It's a Disney movie but they have "put it in the vault"

    Which upsets me considerably, because it's an amazing film that made me weep. Literally, fucking, weep. Wailing and gnashing of teeth type sobbing.

    Point being, it's a great movie with a happy ending for the dogs, so you don't have to worry about that.

    Highly recommended.

    Alternatively, you could watch The Great Alaskan Race, which tells the same, more accurate version on a much lower budget. My late-girlfriend was the wardrobe designer on it, so I feel obligated to mention it, even though it's a bit rough around the edges.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    We have to draw a hard line with these traitors. Mandatory vaccination for everyone entering decent states from traitor states.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Are you a conscious being? Signs point to no.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Zing. And look, the mob likes you.

    Watch out. You might just believe whatever your friends believe.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    They don't have sled dogs in Florida.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    soon they won’t have kids either

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The sled dog team led by Balto didn't deliver vaccines. The vaccine for Diphtheria didn't exist in 1925.

    They delivered diphtheria antitoxin serum which was the only treatment at the time.

    The image has a good sentiment though. The Florida change is just more undermining of public schools to push private charter school enrollment. These bozos in our government voted in vouchers to directly subsidize the businesses they themselves are invested in.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It did exist. It was developed in 1923.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Been a while. Was it a vaccine? I thought it was penicillin he was hauling.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Looked it up. We are both wrong. Apparently it was a specific antitoxin serum for diphtheria. Still not a vaccine but also not penicillin.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    It was actually several different sled dogs that made the trip and Togo did the longest and most difficult part. There's a movie about Togo on Disney+

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I’m not sure this is the case, but I like to imagine that the statue is polished from people petting it.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Listen, smart arse, ive never been deathly ill in all my life, so what was the point of getting all these vaccines?

    Checkmate, big-pharma bootlickers.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Pshhh. What do you mean? What u don't personally experience as being real isn't real.

    Duh...

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    Do they use sled alligators?

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh boy, shaming! Featuring, fall in line bich! And now including, not doing what i say is stupid!

    Real take: all vaccines should come w free wifi.

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  • [+] -33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

    To be fair, the covid vaccine isn't a vaccine. It's an experimental genetic therapy (created by a corporation that would happily murder you for profit).

    That's the facts.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago*

    RNA vaccines may be relatively new, but they aren't genetic therapy. It does not get integrated into your DNA.

    Plus, weren't there 3 covid vaccines? One of them used a more traditional method.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    I'm pretty sure you misunderstood the way these vaccines work - no judgment, media is ass these days - so let me clear it out for you.

    mRNA vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna) give cells a piece of RNA (ribonucleic acid) coding the spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2, the virus causing COVID-19. mRNA normally serves as a translation layer: it simply comes to rRNA, lays down and says "we make THIS". And there's the end of it. No long-term changes are made, the cell just produces respective proteins for a while, before new genuine orders come along.

    In this process, spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2 are being created, are being recognized by the immune system as something that is clearly not yours, destroyed and remembered. Other than this response typical for any vaccine or illness, nothing else ultimately changes.

    Vector vaccines (Johnson & Johnson, Sputnik V) put the spike-coding sequence into another virus that is otherwise harmless. Then this virus enters your body with a shot, and then much the same thing occurs.

    To be clear: viruses do these kinds of things all the time. SARS-CoV-2, that very virus causing COVID-19, does this too, except it instructs cells to replicate the entire thing, so that it could infect other cells and proliferate. In this way, such vaccines are no different than just getting infected, with one major difference in that you don't get sick in the first place and don't have random dangerous code replicate all around your body. Harmless spike proteins get formed in a controlled manner and quantity - and that's it.

    Even if you were an evil billionaire wishing to decimate human population or something, you'd have very hard time making something RNA-based that somehow persists in the body and also doesn't reveal the effects for a long while. Easier to do with vector-based vaccines, but very hard to make it unnoticeable, either.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    A vaccine was once "a weakened form of the pathogen, introduced so the body could create antigens without actually becoming ill". Your technobabble (sorry) sounds like something different.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Yes, because we knew no better. Now we can be more precise and replicate specifically the parts immune system can recognize that are not harmful to us. If anything, we made vaccines safer than they were before.

    It's like saying solar panels are technobabble because we once gathered nearly all energy by burning wood or coal. Sure, we did, but why do it now? We know better options.

    Besides, it takes school-level knowledge of biology to understand the reasoning behind these vaccines. They rely on the knowledge we had for many decades now; it was only hard to produce such RNA sequences at scale and to meet all the standards while doing so. Now we can do this, and it makes no sense to do otherwise.

    Traditional vaccines are more dangerous and, at their best, just as efficient. Besides, they typically take longer to develop and test, and time was a pressing issue. Some traditional-style vaccines got eventually rolled out, but they did not outperform the alternatives, and so they didn't gain much traction.

    So, overall, the biggest and most pressing issue with mRNA/vector-based vaccines is lack of literacy among the people who fear it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    It's a nice story but I'm not buying it.

    Why do you buy it?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Because I studied well at school (which is enough as a prerequisite), and also happen to have a major in microbiology, which is related to what we're talking about.

    If there are things in particular that you are skeptical about, let me know.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's a stretch. Maybe you are being a bit credulous.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    It is, which is why I said "related" as a hedge - and also mentioned that you don't have to be any kind of biologist if you just listened to your biology classes back in the day.

    Basic education is enough to understand, in general terms, how it works.

    On my end, as a microbiologist, I had extensive training on viruses and the way most of them work is very similar. I can confirm that the vaccine doesn't do anything SARS-CoV-2 itself wouldn't.

    So, what makes you skeptical of these vaccines? Or are you trolling around?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A vaccine is a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against a disease. The COVID-19 vaccines do exactly this.

    It trains your body to fight the disease. The methods and techniques are different but the fundamentals are still the same. It's ridiculous to think that its permanent genetic modification.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The only "genetic modification" that I understand happening is the modification to our immune systems being able to fight diseases much better than before. Eventually getting rid of diseases entirely.

    But I guess people thought that was stupid, so now we have measles again like its 1953

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