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kier looking for a way to proscribe scotland as a terrorist group

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    passed by 62 votes to 31, with 21 abstentions.

    Conservative and LibDem MSPs voted against a boycott, and they were joined by independents John Mason and Jeremy Balfour. Scottish Labour MSPs abstained in the vote.

    Scottish Tories and Lib Dems are pro-genocide and Scottish Labour are too cowardly to take a position.

    'Mon the SNP and Scottish Greens!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Not a UK resident but how will this square with the law about protesting for Palestine?

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    There's no law about protesting for Palestine; you're thinking of the law proscribing the activist organization Palestine Action as a terrorist organization.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Question was:

    Not a UK resident but how will this square with the law about protesting for Palestine?

    The law being misused by the police is not relevant to that question. There is no such law, and what does not exist cannot interact with the Scottish Parliament or anything else.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Exactly. protesting for Palestine is now viewed with suspicion by police given the proscription of Palestine Action. That was precisely the reason Kid Starver did it. To intimidate the movement into silence.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well the question asked about the law...

    De facto, the most serious misapplications of the ban on Palestine Action were very shortly afterwards (when the police officer was quoted as saying "Mentioning freedom of Gaza, Israel, genocide, all of that all come under proscribed groups"). That's unlikely to happen again. Further, those misapplications were in the context of protests, where there is a sense of urgency to the actions of the police. The actions of the Scottish parliament are not in a protest context and so there's less sense of urgency and so less room for an individual officer to wrongly connect a ban on Palestine Action to the kinds of statements supported by Palestine Action and hence to conjure up a ban on those statements.

    Or in short, because the law is against the group, not the cause, it won't affect the Scottish Parliament, even though this didn't prevent any action being taken against those in support of the cause before.

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    how much I miss living there.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago
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    [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Good stuff. The Tories being shitty is no surprise, but I am disappointed in Labour and the LDs. Not very surprised, but still a bit disappointed

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The lack of a unionist party supporting this means that it is unnecessarily political is the sad to say and see. I really can't comprehend how the LD whipped for this!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    LD abstention really is a weird one given that they've advocated for recognising Palestine and banning imports from West Bank settlements recently, too, the latter of which I will admit I did not know they had done. I don't see anything explaining the decision with a brief search

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