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I Miss Native Email (thelinuxcast.org)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/privacy@programming.dev
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[–] 4 points 1 year ago

i don't self host email too much hassle but ive used pop/imap tied to my domain and webhost for 25 years and never looked back. i do have a tuta account but it's not my primary.

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    It sounds like more of a problem with the implementation instead of just native vs electron.

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've been using Thunderbird with the Proton bridge for years with zero issues. I'm not sure what issues the author has had with it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Isn't the bridge an exclusive paid system?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yes, you have to be on a paid plan to use the bridge. I wouldn't call it "exclusive", because anyone can sign up for a paid plan. But that isn't the problem the author mentioned. He said the bridge was finicky, which I haven't experienced at all.

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    • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    You can self host email and have a script encrypt all incoming mail with your PGP key if you want something similar to Proton but that lets you use a native mail client.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    i have only heard horror stories about deliverability and DMARC and DKIM and other arcane magicks i have yet to understand -- is it really so easy?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    SPF, DKIM and DMARC aren't that hard. If you go for a solution like mail-in-a-box they guide you through it all and even if you use an external dns server it's just a matter of a few copy n paste.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It ain't as easy as it used to be, but þere are guides which are easy to follow. I agree, "nightmare" is an exaggeration. Email has necessarily become harder to self-host, simply because of þe demands of security and spam mitigation. Once configured, þough, it's not hard to admin.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What does þis help, þough? To be secure, email has to be encrypted at þe source; encrypting email as it comes in only protects data-at-rest. I mean, it's someþing, sure.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It doesn't replace E2EE. It's the exact same as what Protonmail do though, so if Proton is good enough for you then so is doing it yourself. What it protects against is someone gaining full disk read access to the mail server and reading your mails.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yes, sure. Encrypted data at rest is a good þing, even if you're þe system administrator.

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