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[–] 36 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Huge oil and gas reserves also help out.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Taxation + efficiency + [less open]corruption

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  • [+] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)
  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    While many European countries were heavily into colonizing, I don't think the Nordic countries were that excessive into the practice. At least, not to have an empire to extract resources like Britain, France, Spain, etc did.

    It would appear I was wrong on this take.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nordic countries are subimperialist. They receive the benefits of unequal exchange, unfair trade agreements, technological advantage, and so on but rely on the explicit mechanisms of enforcement to come from prime imperialists pike the US.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fair enough, I was unaware of the situation. I always heard of the big colonizing countries being responsible for a lot of issues, but I can see how that could still impact other countries.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    It's less obvious but can see how the Nordic countries fall in line with imperialist structures. I'll expound a bit but it is not in any way in disagreement.

    The nordic countries lend weight to unequal IP restrictions and dollarization and the IMF, they never do anything material against imperialist wars (they actually want a piece of the pie by providing arms), and now that they are accepting their role as NATO pawns they are increasing their military budgets, cutting the welfare state, and allowing their fascistic political foemations to thrive while suppressing the left. They all openly tolerate "Israeli" genocidal fascism and even carry water for their project against domestic dissidents. Nordic countries are deeply embedded in global capital monopoly, the engine of imperialism, whether it is Norway as a petrostate or shipping logistics like in Sweden and Denmark. And they do not do this reluctantly and with policy against imperialist aims. Internally, they are fanning the flames against POC immigrants as the big scapegoat for why their lives are materially deteriorating - not their own state's willing deindustrialization or cuts to services.

    To put it simply, they are liberals. They briefly were the selective snapshot of "successful" liberalism if you didn't peek behind the curtain of global exploitation (who grew that "luxurious" pineapple and what were they paid!?). The global financial system propped up states in their region as a means by which to oppose communists, as if communists were there to steal your children or do the genocides that imperialists constantly engaged in. That system is no longer intentionally doing this, it is neoliberal and there is no communist current in Europe. We now watch it decay into the hallmarks of fascism. The empire is pulling back its subsidies, reversing them, and all of "Europe" is collaborating for how to react to this in the worst possible way.

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    [+] -26 points 1 year ago (44 children)

    Capitalism is great, there’s a reason why Russia and China embrace it.

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  • [+] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Wikipedia has a list of Chinese billionaires. Software Developer salaries in China are similar to salaries in the west. Laborers appear to make far less than owners. I do not know why an individual needs billions. Seems to violate, "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs".

    Maybe the billionaires do not own the capital their laborers use. Maybe the relationship between Chinese billionaire and worker is not exploitative as per the meme. Do the workers control their labor?

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  • [–] [S] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What a braindead liberal take

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago*

    I used to be a liberal before I realized they are apologists for Empire and their talk of morality and interconnectedness is just rhetorical shielding for resource extraction and, lately, genocide.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (37 children)

    lmfao China does not embrace capitalism even in the slightest, meanwhile Russia's public sector is almost as big as China's

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (36 children)

    Julan Du and Chenggang Xu analyzed the Chinese model in a 2005 paper to assess whether it represents a type of market socialism or capitalism. They concluded that China's contemporary economic system represents a form of capitalism rather than market socialism because: (1) financial markets exist which permit private share ownership—a feature absent in the economic literature on market socialism; and (2) state profits are retained by enterprises rather than being distributed among the population in a social dividend or similar scheme, which are central features in most models of market socialism. Du and Xu concluded that China is not a market socialist economy, but an unstable form of capitalism.

    Source.

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  • [+] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The CCP got into power seventy-six years ago how long does it take to get into the next stage?

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Makes sense but seventy-six years is a really long time.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    There’s four stages, they’ve been in the first for seventy-six years.

    Doing the math it seems they’ll need another two hundred and twenty-six years to reach the final stage if they got to the second stage tomorrow.

    I’m not sure if I have impossibly high standards or thinking it’s reasonable to wait another nearly quarter of a millennium might be incredibly low standards.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    China was a largely feudal county working its way out of brutal colonial exploitation - for which the exploiters have never paid reparations and still held on to Hong Kong for decades.

    How long does it take to build productive forces and modernize while still subject to unequal exchange and general imperialism? That is a social and political question, so you tell me about where China was and what its path has been. How many other imoerialized countries jave eliminated absolute poverty, by the way? Not just taking decades to do it, but accomplish it at all.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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    Something about paying $147 to a capitalist to read books about socialism seems strange.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Imagine living in year 2025 and not being able to figure out how to find a PDF online. Explains why you're such an ignoramus I guess.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why not share the pdf’s and remove a barrier?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Because people doing work need to pay bills and make a living? You also seem to be confused about what capitalism is. A worker selling their own labour is not capitalism. Capitalism is when you use capital to buy up the means of production and then hire workers to work for you and appropriate the value they produce.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

    "Two Chinese said it. What, that isn't enough for you tankies!?"

    • A definitely-not-racist liberal.
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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    You’re accusing me of being racist because the source I quoted is written by someone in London and Hong Kong?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    I'm calling your tokenizing logic racist. The lack is thought you put into the entire endeavor. I cannot imagine being this lazy, incurious, and racist. Sort yourself out.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    I’m well sorted and well adjusted thank you very much for your concern though.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    No, you are arrogant and this leads you to false confidence that you can correct people who know more than you by hastily googling, "studies that say China is capitalist" and quoting the first result, patting yourself on the back, and thinking, "you did well, kid".

    Get your racist shit out of here.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    I’m unsure why you think you know me well enough to know what I know or don’t know.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    You think I can't read your comments or something? This is a habit of yours.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    You are the first person here to ever accuse me of being racist and that’s including my Lemmy.world account with the same name that I’ve had for over two years.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Lemmy.world tolerates racism, same as what it wants to be, Reddit. And likely so does the society you live in.

    Like I said, sort yourself out.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I feel like you’re attacking me instead of the facts I laid out because you feel like it’s easier.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    You didn't lay out any facts. Did you forget what I'm criticizing you for already?

    I don't hear any sorting! Just whining to justify yourself. Get to it!

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    You’re criticizing me for being racist because the study I used as a source was written by someone in England and someone else in Hong Kong.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    And the bad faith malding continues.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    Sorry if I misunderstood.

    What are you accusing me of being racist for?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Scroll up. You're going in circles.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Nope just you. Kinda sad that your defense response is to pretend to be illiterate.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I’m just trying to understand your point.

    Should I be insulting you by calling you an illiterate racist instead?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I already explained and you avoided it and started doing this pitiful little song and dance. Maybe you can pay someone to take you seriously, because I don't think anyone is going to do it for free.

    Goodbye, chump

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