125
The US government could get even more Intel stock if the company ends up losing control of its chip manufacturing business (www.pcgamer.com)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
26 comments fedilink hide all child comments

top 25 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 50 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Well, looks like PC I build in the future will feature AMD chips.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 19 child comments
    •
  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I've been looking at building a new pc for my wife, and unless I've completely misunderstood everything, Intel's newest CPUs don't really seem that good anyway.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
    •
  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You understand it fine.

    Intel thought they could get away with their usual MO of "make a leap forward in technology and slowly meter it out over time" forever. Now that we're running into physics limitations, AMD has fully caught up and even sprinted past Intel for certain workloads.

    I used to prefer Intel+nvidia for pc builds, but when the last generation of the Core lineup fell a bit flat I built a Ryzen+Radeon setup that's been kicking ass for years.

    I'm content to just let Intel hang themselves with their own rope.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    That's in line with what I've been able to figure out from benchmarks, so thank you for confirming that. Also, fuck Intel for coming up with a new, and even dumber naming scheme for their newest CPUs, when the old way worked fine (Not that I'm a fan of how AMD names their CPUs...)

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    They're not really that great compared to AMD for the most part. Plus rumor is that AMDs next gen is a lot further ahead of Intel. Then again, it depends on how good of a deal you get on them and if power efficiency is a priority (I've heard that Intel still is pretty decent in that regard). That being said don't get any of their 13th or 14th gen CPUs, that's part of what has led to their current state of affairs.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    My 13700K is still going strong for now, but it sucks to know it's probably on a timer. I'm definitely jumping ship for AMD in my next rebuild.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    My 6700k isn't showing any signs of slowing down, so your timer is probably a ways away

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yours is probably in better shape than mine. The 13 and 14 series specifically had a design flaw in the microcode that overvolts them. They slowly burn out over time, and the damage is irreversible.

    Earlier processors aren't affected. It's specific to this series. But the only "fix" is a microcode patch that nerfs performance, so I'd rather just ride it out and switch to AMD.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    Anandtech had a great saying:

    There are no bad products, just bad prices.

    Performance wise, Intel CPUs were just fine at the right price, no matter what manufacturing drama is going on. Don’t get me wrong, all my recent CPU purchases have been AMD, but not because of brand loyalty or anything; it’s because they were on sale and great for the price.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Intel has been clearly less reliable than AMD the past few generations, and from what I've seen on current gen, for similar performance in gaming Intel uses twice the power.
    If you can get Intel dirt cheap, it may be an OK option, if you are on a tight budget. If it's for gaming, the focus should be mostly on the GPU.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    My next build will probably be ARM but I’m hoping for risc-v.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm happy to see ARM gaining enough traction these days to be a solid alternative to x64. I'm happy to run it for server workloads but I'm skeptical it's ready to replace my AMD PC desktop.

    Granted, I haven't been paying super close attention to the state of the art for the past few years, but from what I gather Apple was a major catalyst in the uptake of ARM for the desktop. Ironically, we have Intel's abysmal Skylake QC to thank for that 😅

    How is Linux ARM support these days? Any particularly outstanding distro that shines on ARM?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    There aren't any ARM manufacturers that upstream their drivers, and no SystemReady support from any manufacturers

    Basically every package works on ARM, but the lack of manufacturer support for hardware means ARM effectively requires a special kernel build for every PC

    RaspberryPi has worked on upstreaming their Broadcom SoC, Collabora had worked on upstreaming the RK3588 SoC...

    None of Qualcomm's recent chips are very usable (always missing something like audio, or other basic functionality)

    Asahi Linux worked on Apple M1/M2 support

    Unless a new ARM manufacturer comes along, general use ARM PCs are a long way away

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    That doesn't fix the problem of needing specific device tree files for every computer.

    So you still won't be able to say, swap your WiFi chip in your laptop and still have it work.

    This just enables a small subset of (specifically Windows ARM laptops) to boot from an image.

    This is very different from x86, where ACPI allows you to have a single image that knows very little about the hardware.

    If ARM started using SystemReady, you could see a truly generic image, rather than having a specific list of laptops the "generic" image works with

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
    • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nationalizing any big company is kinda funny from the administration pushing to privatize everything else for their rich buddies to run

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
    • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Anyone remember when republicans were screeching murder over Obama bailing industries out?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    In the commonwealth, that would make it a Crown Corporation.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •
    [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    MAGA is going Socialist! Maybe there is a silver lining here.

    They should go after Starlink and Space X next. After all, we paid for ALL of it, it really belongs to us.

    He can keep Tesla. It will be bankrupt in 2 years anyway.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
    •