cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/44988853

President of Portugal Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa made a harsh statement about US President Donald Trump. In his opinion, the American leader is "objectively a Soviet or Russian agent," reports Euronews.

"The supreme leader of the world's largest superpower is objectively a Soviet or Russian asset," said de Sousa on August 27 during a speech in Castelo de Vide.

Trump's efforts to present himself as the main mediator in reconciling Ukraine and Russia did not make a good impression on the Portuguese president. De Sousa noted that Trump's attempts to "settle" the war were not beneficial for Ukraine.

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[–] 2 points 1 year ago

Standby for Tariff increase Portugal.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    More of an 'asset' I'd wager, but yeah

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Yall remember how Republicans said no one respected the office of president under Obama?

    I dont recall anyone calling him insults in an official capacity.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I like this guy!!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    yea well there is at least one European leader with some spine. Everyone else is trying work around Trump's man childness like the way house staff has to deal with the extremely spoiled kid of a billionaire.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    People need to say it more, so trump will do what he normally does and sues them.

    Donald trump always loses once the case gets to discovery. They are never able to produce credible evidence since it's all lies and propaganda.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yes but he’s a republican…

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Trump was honeytrappable buffoon and business fuckup desperate for funding when the USSR was still a going concern.

    It's completely possible.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The allegation is that it was more of a 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss' situation for him.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Different ideologies Same bosses/corruption

    You think Putin isn’t were he is because of what the Soviet Union had before? He didn’t throw it all away

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Dude take a chill pill. Reverting to ad hominem is not very useful. Even if you, as I presume, are an ardent communist, you can understand that it’s no wonder that a former KGB agent is the dictator of Russia. Power in one form, even if it is corrupted from your idealist view of it, can very easily migrate to power in another form.

    I think it’s a fair statement to say that those arguing that he could be a “Soviet” asset are meaning that he started as one, not that there is a super secret Soviet shadow government continuing 40 years post collapse.

    But either way, why call your fellow human worthless? Shouldn’t, even if you view them as ignorant, your goal to be to raise them up? Talking things out is how we find truth. I think generally the ideals of communism, not talking of its implementation, represent a good amount of empathy at the macro level; so why not keep that empathy that you have for the micro level.

    I hope you have a good day.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Putin was a mid/upper KGB functionary.

    And that a very large number of the people who did very well put of the collapse of the USSR were former communist party officials who got in early on raiding the USSR's corpse.

    Trump isn't acting on behalf of the USSR in general, but he definitely is funded by and owes favours to older wealthy Russians.

    One older Russian, in particular.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    It also says he's a Russian asset in the title.
    You trying to be nitpicky about it also saying soviet doesn't change the fact that the orange traitorous cunt is a putins' little bitch.
    Doing the old trick of picking up on one little thing (that may be incorrect) to try to unravel everything else won't change fuck all. tRUMP is a fucking russian stooge, just like you.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    The only one willing to say þat þe Emperor has no cloþes.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    No shit, Sherlock. Tell us something we don't know.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Soviet???? No budget or agency for him to be an agent of.

    NATO supremacist evil has political capital tied up in Russophobia propaganda, and the delusion, once every 100 years, that the next time they invade Russia it will pay off. Only traitors, can ever question the potential failure of lies and money pit, and then traitors cannot be allowed to vote or run for office. All truth and practicalities is treason.

    NATO supremacist hatred and threats to Russia are only growing stronger in response to direct economic war by US on NATO members. EU's political capital is tied to the CIA/US approval of their assent to political power, and US provoked war in Ukraine.

    EU is criticizing Trump for not being a Russophobe, while engaging in total Trump sycophancy of imposing austerity on their people in order to spend 5% of GDP on US weapons imports, all to gift to Ukrainian suicidal Russia diminishment.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    Russophobia propaganda

    I mean... *motions generally*. Do you really think we got here by pure hatred? Do you think Russia is innocent? That their decades-long cyber warfare doesn't go unnoticed? That they're literally threatening the surrounding countries into submission and waging an anti-NATO political war? That they have invaded Ukraine twice and took the slightest circumstance as an excuse to do it again, so they could pin the blame on the West while they openly dream about the revival of the USSR? That they won't back out of a "special two-week operation" of four years despite having made their case? That they sabotage every chance for peace talks? Weren't they literally bombing Ukraine while giving lip service to Trump about ending the war? Haven't they orchestrated and perpetrated thousands of human rights violations by targeting civilians and poaching children for reeducation? That a bloodthirsty and power-hungry dictator's administration is running the country? That they don't play an active hand in interfering in foreign elections to topple our stability and governments?

    Yeah, it's all unfounded Russophobia, and we should all reconsider what we think right meow! Or else! Russian style through a window.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    That their decades-long cyber warfare doesn’t go unnoticed?

    There are click farms on the internet. Many from former CIS states including Ukraine. That KGB/FSB doesn't arrest them, doesn't mean they aren't paid by GOP/CIA for their click content. Even if they have FSB budget, it's not as though west has pure love for Russia and isn't subhuman demonic dog shit for trying to nazify Ukraine and Georgia, or video proof of Navaltny destabilization funding, in last 20 years.

    That they have invaded Ukraine twice and took the slightest circumstance as an excuse to do it again, so they could pin the blame on the West while they openly dream about the revival of the USSR?

    Everything a lie here. Red lines for peace today existed before the war. Ukraine needs to aspire to NATO, remain nazified, and conquer regions where they wish to exterminate population, as their only war objectives.

    That they sabotage every chance for peace talks? Weren’t they literally bombing Ukraine while giving lip service to Trump about ending the war? Haven’t they orchestrated and perpetrated thousands of human rights violations by targeting civilians and poaching children for reeducation? That a bloodthirsty and power-hungry dictator’s administration is running the country?

    Everything more lies. Ukraine and NATO scum don't want peace. As demonic pig vermin, they blaming Russia for not wanting peace, and repeating your lies enough times to brainwash morons, is completely normal Hasbara for demonic pig scum.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    "Everything I don't like is a lie!!"

    Ok, sure bud. The tasty sure looks kool-aid.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Demonic subhuman NATO trolls bent on war on Russia must repeat every lie ever for moronic idiocracy to embrace their total subjugation. Everything is true because I love war, and I/my nations people are certain to prosper from total austerity, a draft, and paying the US every cent our country has for weapons to conduct a war without the US on Russia is simply an idiocracy level that is unimaginably extreme that your soul must be throttled out of trusting the pure BS that is bodysnatching you.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    What war has NATO ever waged on Russia? Did you know that all of its members joined by their own volition? Do you realize the only one taunting a takeover of other countries is Russia?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The Ukraine and Georgia wars on Russia were entirely US manipulated. The NATO rhetoric of forever needing to diminish Russia, out of demonic evil supremacist principle, simply escapes the cognitive capacity of a collective idiocracy. That propaganda makes people not question demonic NATO membership, doesn't mean that programing isn't involved in your so called "own volition" acceptance of demonism, and doesn't make those imposing your acceptance not corrupt and evil demonic lizardpeople. Simply, NATO has always been at war with Eurasia, and its not Eurasia that prefers the war.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The Ukraine and Georgia wars on Russia were entirely US manipulated

    Yeah, it's ALL the US and NATO's fault. Russia is innocent! They can do nothing wrong! As we all know, Russia operates in a vacuum and is incapable of doing harm or taking advantage. Do you hear yourself?

    Do you know what the reasons were for those two conflicts? RUSSIAN INVASION. Holy shit.

    The NATO rhetoric of forever needing to diminish Russia

    I mean, do you not realize what's going on in Ukraine? Don't you think that now, more than ever, those fears may have been justified all along? Russia JUST threatened France and is hence threatening everyone with WW3.

    But Russia can do no wrong!

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    US, with NATO support after the fact, is 100% responsible for Ukrainian war that it 100% wanted. Ukrainian puppet nazis being able to motivate/bussify, to the last Ukrainian, their citizens to the front line, is a gift to US demonic ambitions to diminish Russia. Russia is/was 100% forced to defend itself. It is only side that has ever offered the same 100% reasonable conditions to avoid and end the war. All claims of Russian provocation of war is pure demonic evil.

    OP NATOid pig vermin, is just usual NATOid, genuinely unnacceptable traitorous subjugation of their nations, propaganda reinforcing their core demonic evil and lies: "Anyone who expresses a point that would favour ending the war is the propagandized traitor". Anyone not a moron, even if hateful Russophobe, would want the war to end, because Russia is only getting stronger from the war. It has passed Japan and Germany as the 4th larger PPP GDP, and has achieved massive miltary production growth with output that exceeds all of NATO in most important areas, at 1/20th the budget. The longer corrupt demonic evil rules over us to funnel every last dime we have to expensive US weapons industry, the further we will fall behind.

    Let's assume this lying Portugese pig fucking warmongering traitor to humanity believes the headline. The answer is kick the US out of NATO, and declare war on them too, or at least put the same sanctions as on Russia. Not taking that stance is simple ultimate confirmation that he, like every NATO politician allowed to exist, is a CIA stooge hoping CIA/NATO (US leadership thereof) has control over Trump. All of the demonic NATO pathethic loser rulers who appeal to their CIA masters hoping to influence Trump, aren't going to get any relief or kept promises from CIA, the more sycophantic they are to US empire. CIA feedback to Trump will be more like "Great job, we got these losers to pay us 5% of GDP. Now force them to up it to 10%"

    Russia JUST threatened France and is hence threatening everyone with WW3.

    did not hear that (link?). But, am certain, that as always France said some stupid shit first. We need to be extremely thankful to Putin's moderation and patience. If there is any chance that Ukraine special operation does not lead to Russia's desired outcome, leadership will be replaced with one that makes EU STFU forever. The pathethicness does not appear curable by any other means than nuclear fire.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The only pathetic thing I see is licking an entire essay worth of boot while pretending that Russia is the victim here.

    So when are you going to address the human rights violations and the fact that they could end the war overnight if they chose to? Instead they want to escalate.

    France said some stupid shit first

    Really. And what could be so heinous that it warrants a third world war? I thought you said Putin had admirable restraint.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    they could end the war overnight if they chose to? Instead they want to escalate.

    In your propaganda world, Russia is always the side escalating. Russia is the side that wants peace. Ukraine is the side that wants to embezzle aid to the last Ukrainian, and are the actual side that escalates, and calls Russia's retaliation an escalation. Just pure propaganda recitement, that comes from media that wants this war to continue. Pretending you might not be a hateful nazi supporter for a moment, you should question your trust in that media. War is not good for the simpletons.

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    [–] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Note that the headline says "agent," but de Sousa said "asset." That's more likely, Nobody in their right mind would use Trump as an agent, he's too stupid.

    Regardless, it's about time that European leaders start saying it out loud. Quit dissembling, get it out in the open. If the cowards that run the Democratic Party refuse to stand up and say it, at least this way, maybe they'll be forced to respond to it.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's pretty obvious, isn't it?

    I mean, for a lot of actions that Taco does, even for conservative dipshits, how is he actually helping this country? Sure he gives cons rock hard erections when they round up the brown people and human traffic them to concentration camps in other countries.

    But how is that helping?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    He's a fucking traitor. He is being used by Putin, knowingly or not (what's the point of speculating on what passes as knowledge for Trump?) with the goals of destabilizing US democracy, sabotaging the US economy, breaking alliances that deter Russian aggression, and supporting Russia's fossil-fuel exports by interfering with adoption of renewable energy sources.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think Trump is a defacto Russian agent. Trump works in his own self interest. He’s just not very smart. Putin and Americans in his administration that have his ear have convinced him to do things that Russia wants but Trump thinks he’s doing it for himself.

    Trump believes his own and others’ bullshit. I think he genuinely doesn’t understand why Putin isn’t giving him a deal on Ukraine.

    Trump is a real life Manchurian candidate.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't know if Donald J Trump is a Russian plant or is compromised, but what I do know is if he was, this is what it'd look like.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    It’s in a lot of people’s opinions. A. Lot.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Probably in fact, too.

    The only reason to be skeptical is that rump really is that stupid to be of any actual use.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    The only real purpose he has for them is to be a major element of national destabilization. It’s right out of their playbook

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The thing is... they don't have to turn him into an agent. he's monumentally stupid and fucks everything up. all he has to do is be president and he's gonna fuck our shit up, if that makes sense.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    You may be saying “we've known this all along”, but remember: this is Portugal's top diplomat; it takes a lot of guts to say this, considering that Trump is especially vindictive. Also, Marcelo has already won a handshake battle (video in Portuguese) against Trump in 2017, LOL.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    He is correct. It's obvious. The people who still support Trump are in a cult. They are mainlining the koolaide.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Mr. de Sousa is SPOT FUCKING ON! Someone on Lemmy posted a photo of Krasnov shaking hands with Gorbachev and shortly afterwards there advertisements with "Disband NATO" all over the USA all paid for by the orange fuck himself.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Well, ya duh

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Spoiler alert, please.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, I have been imagining recently if I am a public figure, I would run out of patience on Trump myself, especially with revelations on how serious the Trump regime really is on acquiring Greenland. Tariffs be damn. Bring it on.

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  • [+] -16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    There's no basis to call him a Soviet agent.

    He may have been once, though.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Look at you trying to muddy the waters aren’t you a good little agent of your own, read the room, buddy, have some critical thinking once in a while

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Apparently the room is full of people who don't know that their there is no Soviet Union.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    The bloke said Russian or Soviet asset. You trying to be pedantic and nitpicking will not change the fact that Donvict Drumpf is a traitorous cunt.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Right, so why cry about it?

    Or is it OK when we call it Leningrad but not when the other side does?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I have no idea why you are crying about it. It's quite obvious that when someone, anyone, says Soviet that they mean Russia. Stunningly obvious. Also that lil bitch putin wants everything back to when it was called that so no one -of merit- cares about your ill perceived slight 'mix up' that wasn't a mix up in the first place.
    Just like no one of merit gives a shit about Leningrad. For fucks sake.

    But if we add to the fact that the Portugal's pm said tRUMP is a Soviet or Russian asset, and not just Soviet asset shows that you're trying to muddy the waters and change the narrative.
    But it didn't work, all you did was make yourself look like a crybaby pedant, and come over as a SOVIET stooge yourself. Get the fuck out of here with your fucking bullshit.

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    [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    So trump will try to tariff Portugal for the 50th time not understanding what the EU is.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Based against US? Brazil 🤝 Portugal ????

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Color me mildly surprised, because I was under the impression that the recent Portuguese election put their hard right party into power.

    Edit: color me the uninformed yank, as per stereotype 🙃

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nah, he's been president since 2016. And he's a member of the Social Democratic party. I'm not Portuguese, but I don't think that sounds particularly far right.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Ya, and he is old guard PSD, not like the totally not incompetent and Trump-like Montenegro, our amazing prime minister that was spending time on the beach, having fun, while our country was burning.

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