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[–] 86 points 1 year ago

Shocking. Who'd have guessed that this could happen?

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago

    Well, Iran has the right to defend itself

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    As always, the article primarily gives the view as seen from Israel, Tel Aviv; But where is the view from Iran?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    You haven't seen people singing from their balconies during the night time: "death to khamenei!", have you?

    That's the view from Iran. Do you accept the reality though... 💁

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yes. Iranians hate their government and want regime change, it's dubious wether this will help. Most likely it will be used by the regime for more crackdowns and cheap propaganda.

    It is dubious wether bombing from afar can even achieve the stated goal (stopping the nuclear program). Hoping it will somehow magically bring about regime change is a stretch.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The bombing campaign will do absolutely nothing to topple the regime. Israel has now hit orphanages and residential areas.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    You’re downvoted but you’re correct. Iranians hate their government (rightfully so, it’s a repressive religious extremist police state) and will hopefully use the chance of a weakened Khamenei to finally overthrow the mullahs.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I just hope Israel's policy of not caring about collateral damage doesn't backfire here. They may hate their leaders, but seeing family and friends killed will solidify them against Israel.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Israel killing civilians will not make iranians turn against the regime Even gaza with a lot more desperate people the protests against hamas are very low

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    The people already hate this regime.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    No matter how much they hate the oppressive regime , a state that is known for genocide and killing civilians and be proud about it bombing them will not make them change the regime.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That's the first coherent take you had so far.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't give a damn what a random user like you think of my responses

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    There's videos from both sides all over the internet what are you talking about

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    it seems to me as if we're mostly seeing videos about Israel getting hit in the news.

    That matters because it distorts public perception: It makes it seem as if mean Iran is bombing Israel, while in fact it is also true that Israel is bombing Iran. It's about proportional reporting of facts.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    The first video I saw on reddit was of Iranian fire fighters at that apartment building helping out

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    ok i guess then it's just my personal experience that Israeli struggles get highlighted more.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I mean Israeli people probably have more connections in the west so their videos spread faster on social media but there are definitely also Iranian videos. The media is always gonna cover Isreal because their billionaire owners decide what gets printed. On social it's a lot different

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (29 children)

    Nice. Iran has the right to defend itself.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    I wouldn't include Nice, but I agree with that.

    Israel came in and started an act of war. If it was flipped, news would be screaming about Iran being a warmonger.

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  • [+] -38 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Because Iran IS a war mongering nation. Just because they are the enemy of the people you’re Xenophobic about doesn’t mean they’re the good guys

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What's xenophobic about not agreeing with how a government is running a country, its people and its wars?

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I guess my biggest issue is watching Americans moralize and try to lead the charge, while me and my people are still waiting for so much as an apology for all the genocide and cultural destruction you guys committed against us

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Nothing xenophobic about it, unless Ehud Olmert is xenophobic.

    "What we are doing in Gaza is a war of extermination: the indiscriminate, unrestrained, brutal, and criminal killing of civilians. We are doing this not because of an accidental loss of control in a particular sector, not because of a disproportionate outburst of fighters in some unit — but as a result of a policy dictated by the government, knowingly, intentionally, viciously, maliciously, recklessly. Yes, we are committing war crimes."

    Can the former prime minister of Israel be xenophobic towards Israel?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Your comment isn’t written very well so I can’t be sure of who you’re calling xenophobic. But if you’re trying to do that thing where you conflate criticism of Israel with antisemitism, you can fuck right off. We’ve had that argument and your side lost.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Iran also should have the right to chose their own leaders. But they don't. Which is too bad. If they weren't stuck with a Supreme Dictator making their decisions then they wouldn't even need to be defending themselves right now.

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  • [+] -17 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    From the gay people they execute and the female protesters that they disappear?

    Additionally did I have a right to defend or retaliate after you guys wrecked my country and treated my people like scum? Cause if so, death to America.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    ...did I have a right to defend or retaliate after you guys wrecked my country and treated my people like scum?

    Yes

    Cause if so, death to America.

    That was always an option, yes.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So if a bunch of Mexican people start blowing up your family it’s all good?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    I mean I don't remember Canada fucking up Mexico in the past but sure? Its not all good even if justified, I would say the native people have a legit reason to beef with my nation for example. But I don't think I did anything myself to invite a response.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    From the genocidal Zionists which killed more gay people in one year than Iran since its inception.

    Go simp for Zionists on Reddit.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It’s wild, im indigenous and have never had so much hate and racism thrown at me by white leftists who are perching to my brown ass about genocide and colonialism, as I have these pat two years. The rest of us around the world are shaking our head at you guys, your right wingers have been toxic for a long time, but the African left decided to follow suit this year. Non American leftists think you guys are all extremists now

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    Non American leftists think you guys are all extremists now

    In what ways? What are some specific views that you have that are in opposition to the American leftists? And who is "we"? At least narrowing it down to a specific nationality would be really helpful for context for understanding what perspective you are speaking from.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Israel do not discriminate between a pro regime, an anti regime, a women, a gay etc when killing

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    You, sir, are a liar, who is spreading hatefull BS! Israel does not target civilians. The official statements by Israel officials suggest civilians evacuate to safety from the vicinity of military sites in Iran.

    Also, quite a telling detail: What do the Iranian officials do? Are they actively trying to secure internet communications - or rather disrupt internet services? 💁

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You so mad that iranian disturb israel internet yet most of gaza had no internet and are starving because israel do not enter enough food and even shoot at people seeking food.

    The geneva convention prohibit hitting nuclear sites due to all the harm it cause on people and environment

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not really. I've just checked your claims, and presented evidence disproving your BS.

    You are a liar AND delusional, as you're still trying to disseminate same old hateful racist claims, even when you've just been caught as a liar.  I have to BL you too: you're way too big of a flaming voluble liar. 💁

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (39 children)

    I’m no Israel supporter but fuck the IRGC. I hope Iranians can at least get a regime change out of this. Death to khamenei and death to all the IRGC leadership. I hope they all become kotlets.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Let’s hope for the same in Israel. Both need it badly.

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  • [+] -19 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    "I'm no Nazi Germany supporter, but fuck the British Empire. I hope the British can at least get a regime change out of this. Death to the King and to all the British leadership. I hope they all become beef Wellington"

    • bzz after the battle of Dunkirk.
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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    WTF LMFAO. Iran is way closer to Nazi Germany than the British under Churchill which it doesn't resemble in any way.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Israel is Nazi Germany in the analogy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Let them both be nazi, don't argue that. Btw, nazi=bad is ina way trivializing the situation. Let's held each state accountable of their own crimes.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Could you actually read the comment I was replying to before diving in?

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  • [+] -21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    So israel has free reign to continue genocide,ethenic cleansing and opressing palestinian?

    I don't like the iranian regime. I hope israel stop it terrorism and agression then iranian change the regime by themselves

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [+] -23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Everybody saying it or not don't change that it's a fact what israel real intention is

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So why are you putting words in other people's mouths? So you have something to argue against that wasn't even brought up earlier?

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  • [+] -23 points 1 year ago (16 children)
  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Enough with two sides team based simplistic sense of geopolitics. Israel is a warmongering aggressor state who is attacking Iran, an autocratic theocracy that commits crimes on its own people on a regular basis. There is no reason two things can not be true and terrible at the same time.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The biggest amount of suffering is because of the western imposed sanctions on Iran. Your are supporting another regime change like the previous Shah which only serves Western purposes.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Have you any idea on the internal situation in Iran? Talk to any Iranian, you will learn of things. Even before the western sanctions the people suffered. This idea of us vs them crap and everything is solely the fault of western influence is insulting to anyone from the region.

    I don't think the practice of shooting shotguns into crowds from rooftops was something caused by western sanctions for example.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Shut, and I cannot stress this enough, the fuck up.

    In 2009, the government killed 1.500 people because they went out to ask were their votes went. 10 years later they killed the same amount because people protested an overnight gas price hike of 100%. Then they killed a similar amount, because they beat a Kurdish woman to death for not wearing a hijab. Last year, a wave of gas attacks on girls schools happened and the government looked the other way.

    Mossadegh would have led Iran to a better future. Both the Shah and the IRI Ran It into the ground.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The biggest amount of suffering is because of the western imposed sanctions on Iran

    Nope. 99% of the suffering is because of the Supreme Dictator

    Your are supporting another regime change like the previous Shah which only serves Western purposes.

    Nope. I want Iran to be able to chose their own leaders. To be thinking that Iranians aren't good enough people to deserve freedom and basic human rights sounds a bit racist to me.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why do you think you have the right to dictate what form of government they have?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Because we think killing women and queers just because they exist is a big no no.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Absolutely not. Iranians are celebrating the death of some of those killed in the strike.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Israelis are celebrating the Iranian strikes on Tel Aviv.

    This is you.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    No, I mean their literally celebrating that some of the fuckers were killed who contributed to repressing the hijab protests

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  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Go to YouTube and search any video about Iran and watch it. Check what women are wearing. Come back then.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ask any Iranian woman. Jina got beaten to death for not wearing her veil correctly.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The title suggest that Israel's bombing in the first place was New Hope?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Iran's current regime has committed many crimes, while I hate them, I also hate Israel who's committing an active genocide. Israel is a foreign entity, Iran is not. Today its Iran, tomorrow its some other country.

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