Inspired by another post.

Quick sources.

According to Google, a single search requires about 0.0003 kWh of energy.

https://www.rwdigital.ca/blog/how-much-energy-do-google-search-and-chatgpt-use/

Each ChatGPT query consumes an estimated 2.9 Wh of electricity...

https://balkangreenenergynews.com/chatgpt-consumes-enough-power-in-one-year-to-charge-over-three-million-electric-cars/


Edit: I'm an idiot for not even considering conversions. I simply pasted the numbers from the sources. Apologies.

0.0003 kWh is 0.3 Wh, and 2.9 Wh is 0.0029 kWh.

I think the regular search is effectively one-tenth a chatgpt prompt.

...according to a simple calculator, and a lot of commenters who've now accidentally made this funnier.

I'm not an electrician.



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[–] 125 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It bothers me so much that the two numbers are in different units

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Aren't they both in Watt Hours of different magnitudes, so same unit different magnitudes.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yes, but it's obviously done that way to make the numbers look more different at first glance

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Hmm, great point. I simply copied the figures from the sources. I dunno why I didn't consider converting one of them.

    Edited post to add conversions. Thank you.

    But now I just think the meme is even funnier for a new accidental reason.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Did you ask ChatGPT to do your math too?

    Terrible choice of units hides the fact that 0.3 and 3 are not that far apart.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago

    I simply copied from the sources, not thinking at all. I've added context to the edit per everyone's remarks. It's about a tenth.

    But you raise an interesting question.

    A quick search suggests ChatGPT gets 2.5 billion prompts a day. I wouldn't presume this is a one-to-one scale. How many Google searches result in more searches as the person is trying to refine to figure out what they're looking for or not finding it? Additionally, how prompts into ChatGPT have further prompts for refinement?

    I could see a case when ChatGPT gives quick results that take one prompt whereas someone unsuccessfully googling might make 10 searches.

    Does it net out? Who knows. There's also innumerable other factors at play. What we CAN know is that energy use has skyrocketed recently, whereas Googles been around for decades.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A full order of magnitude is “not that far”?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    When you're talking about a difference of 9 Google Searches, an LED bulb running for 15 minutes, or running an AC unit for about a second, yes its not much.

    Edit: Although notably, the training is the concerning part power-wise. That said, not using it doesn't help that that much seeing as they're mostly funded by speculative investment. The best course of action is instead through collective organization to strengthen the working class and push for stronger regulations.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I look up recipes a lot, would love to know the actual cost of visiting a site, given all of the JavaScript and cookies, tracking, images etc that has to be loaded, that I don't really care about

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I use it to help figure out the order to cook things like stir frys with whatever ingredients I happen to have, which is an improvement over my previous "just throw it all in and stop when I feel like it's time to eat then wonder why the meat is so tough".

    It also helped me figure out that I've been steaming food instead of frying it for a long time. Though my cooking got a lot messier when I corrected that and I went from never burning anything to occasionally burning some things.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Do you have the app broccoli?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Do yourself a favor, get it. Best recipe app, just share the recipe page with broccoli and it will create a quick recipe

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Are they not the same number?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    now calculate how much power this meme took to make. or how much power all the page views take.

    the easiest reference for this stuff is how much more efficient a thing is compared to an old-fashioned lightbulb. The standard lightbulb is 50W, which means leaving it on for an hour consumes 50Wh. so with that amount of energy, you could do 15 chatgpt prompts. or 150 regular searches. or run your (1500W) vacuum cleaner for two minutes. or rev your car for 1.8 seconds, assuming your engine is around 130bhp.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Is the benefit provided by ChatGPT worth 3 million electric cars? Can we maybe scrap something else, like 1% of fast fashion, to equal out the capacity?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    no, because line needs to go up

    Seriously though, I agree with you. It's just so wasteful. It's really disheartening to try and do my eco friendly bit to reduce waste (particularly of power) and then data centres just piss away the ground we've collectively made.

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The error with the measuring units is so grotesque it looks like bad faith to ride the AI bad wave but who knows

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    ChatGPT, how do you make a meme wothout chatGPT?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    You don’t take into account that Google made its search worse on purpose and now you have to make two or more queries to find what you need.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I feel like ⅒ is a gross overestimation and regular search engines should consume at least 100 times less than GPTs.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    And chances are that option 2 gives you misinformation, and of course doesn't cite sources.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Would be great if the AI bubble caused investments in the electric grid and renewable energy and then popped.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I am sorry for being late, but I would love to say that the no 0.3Wh vs yes nuclear plant would be just perfect.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    anyone wanna correct it then ? I currently don't have computer for this, maybe there is android foss meme maker app though ?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Next time try making the meme without a pedophile.

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