I almost got a Keyboardio. I was put off by reviews of the switches, or quality issues, or something.

Size doesn't really matter; I wouldn't use all of the keys, but I don't care if they're there. I don't travel with my keyboard.

I'm mainly where I am because (a) I'm maxing my home row usage, (b) I try to eliminate anything that requires me to take my hands off the home row, and (c) I got sucked into the aesthetics of Chocs. A and B lead to an upper practical limit for the number of keys, so the keyboard size is a function of that and not because I'm trying to save space. C was just a mistake; yes, it's slick, but I should have gotten full size switches, which would have allowed me to get higher tactility.

Those Keyboardios are very nice looking.

Gosh, yes, love that site. I don't use it much since it's almost impossible for it to stay comprehensive; for example, it's missing both the Piantor and Piantor Pro, and the Piantor had been around for a couple years at least.

It is a wonderful tool, though. I think it'd be a full time job to keep it current with all commercially available keyboards, much less all of the bespoke builds.

The Kyria is nice; that's what I originally had my eye on. The stagger is right, and while some of those thumb keys are placed absurdly far in, there are enough further out to be useful. I do like the knob options, although I'd never use them.

You know, after I set my sights on the Piantor Pro, I completely forgot about the Kyria. I'm just now seeing the Halcyon series with a load of thumb keys! Frankly, more than I could use; I'm not facile with them and find dancing between layers with them to be challenging, but it does give my a lot of positions to use whichever is most comfortable.

I think that's the winner.

Oooo, that's better! It's a few keys short, for me; I need those missing 6. I'm already past my chording comfort level. Maybe a little more pinky stagger, too, but this would probably work.

Thanks, though! That's the right direction.

Hah! I'm having trouble distinguishing between the Cantor and the Piantor Pro, which is what I'm currently using.

My issue with these is the thumb key placement. The innermost two are fine, but having to tuck my thumb almost into my palm to reach those outer (looking at the keyboards, or inner, if you look at each hand) keys is not very ergonomic for me. It's also a fairly wide horizontal span to move the thumb, and sequences requiring inner:outer are both tedious and unavoidable.

I don't doubt you like it; for me it's not ideal.

Thanks for the suggestion!!

Kyria is a solid alternative. I was seduced away from it by the Piantor Pro and forgot about it, but the Halcyon Kyria looks perfect. I probably wouldn't use those outer thumb keys much, but it doesn't hurt they're there, and there are plenty of more well-positioned thumb keys from which to choose.

I'd like more stagger on the body section than the birdy44 has, which looks like almost none; it has pinky stagger, but other than that no columnar stagger. The integrated track pads are lovely, though!

KLOR has the same thumb key positioning - the "m" key is too far in - you have to tuck your thumb to get it under your index, which is over the "m" key. It's the same layout as the Piantor. I was hoping for a thumb cluster positioned more naturally under the resting thumb, with less horizontal thumb movement, like the ErgoDox (and siblings).

The Voyager, like its bigger brother the ErgoDox has tepid stagger. They are the inspiration for this layout; I have the ErgoDox and like the thumb key placement.

Thanks for the suggestion!