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[–] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

In my home city they installed bike lanes on the passenger side of the car parks on the sides of the road between the foot path. Cost a great deal.

Then cyclists kept getting knocked over by passengers opening their doors into cyclists so months later they removed them all.

Government efficiency at its finest

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Where would you have installed them? You’ll get hit by the driver door if you swap the orientation.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    If you are going to have parking, then you put the bike lane between the travel lane and parking. Drivers usually will look before blindly opening their door into traffic. Passengers won't usually do that because they're usually along the curb. Drivers that don't check, wouldn't have anyway because they're insane.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    At least on the driver side the driver tends to look for traffic before swinging open a door.

    There's no perfect solution without redesigning everything but the passenger side between footpath and car park is the worst place without actual large buffer zone

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They did this in my neighborhood as well. They created "safe routes to school" (name of the initiative). Locals complained until the city ripped them back up.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ah, there's your problem. The hardware is too new, and the OS keeps malfunctioning.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago
    [–] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    This bullshit again, the “barriers” were folding markers and parking space bumpers. Local riders mostly disliked them since the bumpers wouldn’t stop any cars anyways and just create less control for everyone involved. If the dumbass city council did it right there wouldn’t have been an issue but they half assed it and got hate from both sides. Good riddance.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    They all look fine to me. Drivers are drifting because they don't pay attention in that area, which is why they were put up in the first place. The complaints are specifically saying "I am a bad driver."

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    If you think through the situation you’ll realize the barriers are just ramps at normal driving speeds. So a car in the air without any human control makes the entire situation more dangerous than a real barrier or just fold over markers. Removing control from the 3000lb machine is the worst possible outcome from a system like this.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    1. Those barriers are 6" high. On planet earth, you're not going airborne no matter how hard you hit them.

    2. The barriers also have fold over markers with them.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "I’ve seen drivers drift into and hit the berms, so they’re doing their job. If those weren’t there, drivers would be able to drive over the lane and hit someone," Zuniga said.

    It does seems to be working according to one local.

    Franklin contends bike lane safety features like what were installed in Vista are part of what he calls an “anti-vehicle agenda.”

    Me think mayor is lying about the data, not uncommon for politician.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yea, thousands of people reached out saying remove them. Really? Thousands? In one area? Thousands of people do not contact their local officials. We'd be a very different country if that happened regularly.

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    [–] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    After the berms were installed, drivers complained that they were difficult to see, so they were hitting them

    So they are telling us that they were driving on the cycling lane all this time, and those things make it difficult to do so

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Watching that video, you can tell the mayor hates bikes and is part of the anti-bike crowd. "Bicyclists told us they hate these new lanes", except that's probably just the mayor's friend Bob who only rode for 10 minutes one day, so they could make this claim. They should have to prove there's really a lot of cyclists pushing for this before the city spends money undoing anything. From what I saw, this would be a huge improvement in my town and I would dig it.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    This bullshit again, the “barriers” were folding markers and parking space bumpers. Local riders mostly disliked them since the bumpers wouldn’t stop any cars anyways and just create less control for everyone involved. If the dumbass city council did it right there wouldn’t have been an issue but they half assed it and got hate from both sides. Good riddance.

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  • [+] -24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    My city put up bike lanes on one street. The traffic here is already so bad and they took up a lane to put them there.

    It ended up causing massive amounts of traffic and they removed them after about 6 months.

    I think the problem was that they caused congestion coming off of a road that people use to get off the main highway and to the business district of my city.

    I’ve literally never seen a bike there as it’s mostly corporate buildings and banks and it’s a tropical country. No one is going to ride a bike to that kind of job here.

    Additionally, they were just used by motorcycles, so it would be unsafe for bikes anyway.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    "They put a single bike lane on a single street and no one used it!!"

    I doubt many people would use a road for cars if there were only one and you had to drive on busy railroads to get to it. Same logic applies to a bike lane surrounded by car-centric infrastructure. You need a network, not a single lane, if you actually want people to use a means of transportation.

    That's ignoring the fact that drivers consistently underestimate how many people actually use the bike lane.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Yeah I live in a country where it rains, snows and where people ride bikes to the office in their suits and shiny shoes because they prefer it over being stuck in traffic.

    Even the prime minister (now head of NATO) used to ride his bike to work, although that was probably also an image thing ("he looks so normal! What a nice guy").

    I don't think bikes are the problem, just one random bike lane is not going to cut it, you need a good (safe, quick, comfortable) route to get from A to B and a bit of time for people to adjust.

    Just note that every person that takes the bike means one less car on the road. So proper bike lanes are the solution for traffic jams.

    But in the end, if you want to live in a country that looks like a highway, you do you.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I’m not saying I don’t want bike lanes.

    But the layout of the city I live in is a bunch of districted connected by a big highway.

    People are not riding a bike from one district to the other and if they do, they are at high risk of getting hit.

    So bike lanes are stupid when only 1 district implements them and doesn’t offer any way to get there from other places safely.

    It is literally unused and takes up a lane to worsen traffic even further.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    So your argument is any one district is wrong to put in a bike lane because they all don’t have bike lanes? How do expect to have connecting bike lanes if you don’t start anywhere?

    And your second issue is it’s dangerous for bikes so we shouldn’t have bikes? Maybe people should drive better?

    You even used the classic “I never saw anyone use them”

    You sound like you just don’t want bike lanes…

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This coordinated war on bike lanes sure is curious. All of a sudden, different cities, states, provinces are all working to remove bike lanes. Almost like there’s someone coordinating it all.

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