Their reproducible builds approach is actualy one of the best security features that even F-Droid struggles with consistently.
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Awareness raised indeed, thanks; I hadn't known about this before!
It's interesting to read the squabbles online of people debating its security vs. F-Droid's...
Yay, some success :D
The squabbling is, ugh, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Everyone agrees that the current duopoly of apple and google app stores is bad, but instead of supporting a variety of alternative options, they expect every option to offer a perfect solution for whatever they're a purist about.
I'm a fan of acrescent but something about nearly $6000 in monthly costs doesn't smell right.
They need $5800/month in recurring donations to fund a full time developer to be working on Accrescent, implementing new features, creating new tooling, etc. The blog post clearly says this.
Yeah thanks I can read. It is not clear at all.
An example is that it says "to fund full-time development", and you've assumed thats a "full-time developer."
What are we talking here - is it a salary for someone? Overheads? Marketing? Hosting etc? What will donations give us? Is there a roadmap? If anything, the store needs more apps. A slick new frontend is pretty far down my list of wants.
And before you come back with another spikey comment remember that I'm saying this as a fan of Acrescent. I'm not suggesting there's anything nefarious going on. If they are were asking VC's for cash this is the information they'd be expected to provide.
- Develop a privacy-friendly app store.
- Only accept donations through Microsoft.
- wHy IsNt AnYoNe dOnAtInG?
- Fail.
Our income comes from two primary sources: 1) recurring and one-time GitHub Sponsors donations and 2) cryptocurrency donations.
- Don't read the article
- Be completely wrong
- Look like an ass when someone calls you out
I did read the article. Crypto is just not even worth mentioning.
Your whole point is that a privacy focused app store should provide privacy focused donation methods.... which crypto is....
Its also rife with scams and incredibly volatile.
Sure, but again to your point, it's a privacy friendly way to donate.
There are lots of other private ways to donate that don't involve scams.
What would you use instead? PayPal? Which was literally founded by fascist Elon Musk and democracy-hating Peter Thiel?
Anything that involves banks? Literally centralized financial institution that are subject to extensive KYC/AML regulation?
GitHub Sponsors at least doesn't charge fees, so it's the best of these options. But crypto, especially XMR, is objectively better for accepting donations online.
So because crypto has been used for scams, no one should use it or support someone who accepts it?
Wait till you hear about fiat.
Crypto is only rife with scum because of its privacy. And I don't disapprove of private alternatives just because bad people use them.
That's government speak. 1:1
So because crypto has been used for scams, no one should use it or support someone who accepts it?
No because it's used almost exclusively in scams. Also because of the insane environmental impact.
Wait till you hear about fiat.
I'll say the same thing about platforms like Zelle or wire transfers. If someone asks you for them, it's almost certainly a scam.
Crypto is only rife with scum because of its privacy.
- Lack of any regulation whatsoever. And increasingly so with the new US administration.
Looks like they accept monero and bitcoin among other crypto, did they not have that before?
This looks like an ad. What's wrong with F-droid?
Nothing wrong with it. It is just an alternative, for those who are more concerned about privacy and security than an average user.
F-Droid feels like an app store. Which it is and damn good at. Accressenct feels like a necessary toolbox that comes along with a fresh Graphene install. It doesn't feel the same as an app store.
A lot. Including significant security issues. https://privsec.dev/posts/android/f-droid-security-issues/
F-Droid is great for the FOSS market but not everyone only wants FOSS apps, Microg and the Aurora Store exist for a reason. Accrescent could theoretically (eventually) make it possible to wean more people completely off the play store.
If F-Droid meets your needs, then that's great, and this post is not for you :)
Personally, ever since I heard of this store, I've not been interested. It just seems like another Google Play to me.
I understand that the developers have done some things to enhance the security such as app certificate pinning and such, but I cannot get over the fact that it's a single source that any government can contact and pull down an app from.
I personally stick with fdroid because if they are forced by governments to pull down an app the app dev can launch their own onion repo without asking permission.
And fdroid is working very diligently on reproducible builds. Which is unique in the app distribution landscape.
I understand the premise that you don't want to trust a third party if you don't have to. But I also don't trust the developers to publish the source code correctly either. At least fdroid keeps everyone honest with the code being available.
I don't think they're aiming to replace F-Droid. Rather think of this as a tool to wean the masses off the play store. It's also an alternative for those people currently using microg and Aurora Store.
Personally I have some proprietary apps that I don't want to be without. If Accrescent could provide them, I could finally delete my google account. I literally just have an account to download apps.
You do not need a Google account to download apps. May I introduce you to the Aurora store. You can download it from fdroid and you can use an anonymous account to download apps with it.
Edit: I clearly did not read your comment closely enough. If you already have the Aurora store, then why do you need a Google account? I haven't had one in like two years and didn't use the one I had for years before that.
You can't download paid apps through the Aurora store.
Guess it's a good thing I'm a cheap motherfucker then. If an app has a price tag next to it, I don't use it. Now if an app is open source and they ask me to donate to it, I'm willing to do that.
Why not both? ;)
Some FOSS apps are only available for a fee in the play store and I think that's great. They're able to access a bigger market for funding purposes, and we both know the vast majority of play store users won't make the effort to figure out how to make donations otherwise.
I believe OSMAnd is in the Play Store, but costs money. But if you get it from fdroid, it's free. And I'm okay with that, because I use fdroid.
Tldr:
in order for Accrescent to continue advancing, we need $5,800/month in recurring donations to fund its full-time development.
We are currently receiving $112 each month in recurring donations.
We are currently spending $53.53/month on our services.
We recently discovered that an unprecedented Monero donation of ~$16,062.50 was received in the short time after we totaled the latest values for this article but before it was posted.
Because this is a significant donation, we will be posting an update on our social media accounts soon about what this means for the project
Update: They've released a roadmap.
They have a fixed plan for the next 3 months, mostly back-end improvements for app developers.
Longer term plans are listed in order of priority but without a time line, it depends on how much of their funding goal they reach.
Current funding on Github shown at 10% of goal.
No thanks! They spread apps which fail to include a libre software licence text file, apps we do not control, lmao
No properitary apps allowed on my phone. Why'd i trust what you say without proof?
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