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[–] [S] 111 points 1 year ago (66 children)

Frankly, he may win because of them. It's like a crazy political Streisand-effect thing they are doing with him I swear to god. I wouldn't know who he is if not for how the corporatist Dems have treated him, and I suspect it helped his primary win, too.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (64 children)

    Dems are great at self sabotage, even if they have to skip primaries to do it.

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  • [+] -22 points 1 year ago (62 children)

    The democrats have always had primaries some people ignore the fact they happened because they didn’t like the outcome.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (61 children)

    How? How many primaries has Kamala Harris won?

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago (58 children)

    The democrats ran a primary in 2024 which Biden won.

    Biden stepped back and Harris was voted in by the delegates because at that point there wasn’t time for another proper primary.

    Harris would have been a much better president than the guy who ended up winning.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (30 children)

    so again. how many did harris win?

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  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago (29 children)

    The democrats ran a primary in 2024 which Biden won.

    Biden stepped back and Harris was voted in by the delegates because at that point there wasn’t time for another proper primary.

    Harris would have been a much better president than the guy who ended up winning.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    HOW MANY DID HARRIS WIN? You can say zero, because the answer is fucking zero.

    They should have run another primary. Or left biden in. Or, and this may be shocking, came out against genocide and got more votes.

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  • [+] -14 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    2020’s proper primary took from February 3 to August 11, 2020 or 190 days.

    Biden dropped out on July 21 2024 and 190 days after that would have been January 27, 2025.

    How’s the genocide going now? I think Trump gave away Ukraine yesterday and now Israel is getting ready to take over Gaza City.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    do you seem to think I support trump?

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  • [+] -13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    No I’m just asking how the genocide is going now that Harris lost and Trump is president.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's going exactly how we told the Democratic leadershp it would go, if they kept running bad candidates and bad policies.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That’s the most ghoulish told-you-so I’ve heard of.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    The democrats have always had primaries

    2 minutes later...

    Harris was voted in by the delegates

    Well that was a fucking lie.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You might as well just kick yourself in the nuts instead of arguing with a partisan ideologue.

    It'll hurt less.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I’m just a guy who saw the two choices in 2024 and knew Harris was by far the better choice so now I’m reminding non-voters that they caused this mess.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    They had a 2024 primary.

    2020’s proper primary took from February 3 to August 11, 2020 or 190 days.

    Biden dropped out on July 21 2024 and 190 days after that would have been January 27, 2025.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    You could at least cite your source of a 2024 primary happening. I've voted every chance I get for everything big and small since 2016 and I don't remember getting to vote for Biden or any other option in a Democratic primary in 2024.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    do you live in new hampshire? the DNC decided they werent going to honor any primary votes in new hampshire because the new hampshire democratic party wouldnt move their voting date to what the dnc demanded-- which was to run South Carolina first, since Biden did well there.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/new-hampshire-attorney-general-accuses-dnc-voter-suppression-rcna132945

    It worked out in the end, under threat of lawsuit for illegal interference with the voting process by the DNC.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (10 children)
  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Ah I see. The lack of any form of election was cause everyone basically dropped out before my state got a say. So the only options were Biden or Uncommitted (which did get a significant amount of votes).

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    What? No I read the Wikipedia page you linked which states when each state had their primary and also states when everyone dropped out of the race. I saw in the article that my state, Missouri, had the primary after every other choice had left which lead me to realize why it felt like there was no primary. There basically wasn't one by the time I could have had a say in anything.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Damn, that's crazy. Those leftists sure suck, didn't even try to oppose big evil Biden.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    My brother in Christ leftists weren't even in this primary. Ffs one of the options was a damn antivaxer. Are you really gonna say the DNC would be accepting of actual leftists when they seem more fine having an antivaxer represent them? Actual leftists were running third party like the PSL party with Claudia de la Cruz or getting thrown out of every public Dem appearance for demanding them to speak against Israel and stand up for Palestinians. At the very least allow for someone from Palestine to speak on stage at a conference in front of the public, but that was asking too much.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    My brother in Christ leftists weren't even in this primary.

    Yeah, that's my whole point.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah and a lot of leftists aren't going to hold their nose and vote for any form of light conservatism just because it's "the lesser of two evils". They're either going to vote third party or not vote at all. So the DNC can either shut down and stop getting in everyone's way or start trying to appeal to leftists instead of the mythical "moderate conservative".

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's how you get trump, congrats!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    You all always blame leftists as if Dems can do no wrong and are allowed to do whatever they want? Newsom attacks homeless people, talks shit about trans people, and platforms fascists on his podcast? That's fine cause he's not running as a conservative and said some mean things about Trump on Twitter. Anyone who expects more from them is just purity testing and will never be satisfied.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    They probably shouldn't have run Biden if they knew he was gonna drop out before the election then. Everyone knew that Biden's brain had melted from age. That's why he said he would only serve one term all the way back in 2020.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Quit your bullshit. You know damn well there wasn't a real primary in 2024. Dems had a primary the same way Putin holds elections. And you know this. Tired of this bad faith centrist horseshit.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Dems had a primary the same way Putin holds elections.

    You’re saying this and calling me bad-faith?

    That’s laughable.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Big Dean Philips fan, huh? The 2024 primary was a coronation from the beginning with no serious candidates running against Biden. Several states canceled their Democratic primaries. It was run exactly like an election in a tin-pot dictatorship where the ruler wins with 99% of the vote.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Or it was ran like Obama and Clinton’s second term primaries were.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    there wasn’t time for another proper primary.

    lolololol

    Sure Jan.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    2020’s proper primary took from February 3 to August 11, 2020 or 190 days.

    Biden dropped out on July 21 2024 and 190 days after that would have been January 27, 2025.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Plenty of other countries have primaries in that short of a time frame. It also wasn't a secret that Biden wasn't qualified, and was going to have to drop out waaaaaaay before he did.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    He would have won if he stayed in.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    LoL, the guy who was in severe mental decline? The guy that openly lost the debate? The guy that had massive poling against him? Sure thing, buddy.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Harris barely lost and Biden is a white male.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If Biden's team thought he had any chance of winning whatsoever, he wouldn't have dropped out. His dropping out is incontrovertible proof he couldn't have won.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    yes, and if he had won he would have finally had a chance to "defeat medicare", right.

    And he was going into an election with lower poll ratings than any president in 80 years. he had no chance of winning.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    A "primary" with an incumbent president isn't a real primary. Anyone who says otherwise is acting in bad faith.

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  • [+] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You call what's happening "slightly faster"? And it's only been half a year...

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  • [+] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    In that case republicans would be able, at most, to block progress. Now you have secret police disappearing people in broad daylight, not to mention the open ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

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    Democrats facing Trump: "We tried nothing and we're all out of options"

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    Somehow I understand their reaction... the democrates are afraid that this guy shows the worlds what powergreedy hippocrites they are and how similar they are to the republicans.

    They became the very thing they swore to destroy...

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Don't be shocked if he loses. I wouldn't put it past even Democrats to help the Republicans rig that election. Worse case they see he will win even with all the rigging that Trump sends ICE and bam he off to El Salvador. Democrats will quietly cheer.

    I have no hope in our politicians saving us and damn sure not in voting our way out of fascism. Until we rise up collectively and realize this a class war. Us vs Billionaires nothing going change.

    I do hope he wins and turns over all the dominos but on the other hand. I seen to many so called progressive like him. Who after they won they fall in line with the party.

    We need more Luigis and I hope he wins and sticks to his principals. Guess we will see. But I am not getting my hopes up anymore.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Considering what happened in Buffalo with India Walton, you’re absolutely right to be concerned. For anyone who doesn’t know, Walton successfully challenged Buffalo mayor Byron Brown in the Democratic primary, but he colluded with Republicans and ran as a write-in candidate in the general election and beat her.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    The problem ist still the people that vote.

    In Germany our last government was a coalition of social democrates and the green party. The actual majority party is the "christian" conservatives again after the green party did a lot they had promised that was the right direction but shook the peoples minds. A lot was done with good intensions but rushing forward with blind actionism.

    Also some politicians needed some "time to acclimate" to political reallity.

    And of course our version of the MAGA jokels... instead of concentrating on the real problems... they constantly shit on peoples weight or youth.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Lmao no we're not, that's why he's on our ticket. Zohran's our guy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (12 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Polls are showing him above every other candidate combined.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    There had been a lot polls that said ol' Shitznpantz will never become Potus... still, here we are.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Actually, aggregate polls predicted the second Trump victory. I was really stressing about it before the election.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    The second one... I ment the elections for his first term.

    For me as a German it is history repeating... and every day my opinion that the human population should be reduced by 90%. We are the greatest danger to all life on this planet.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    I think at least fivethirtyeight predicted a tossup heavily favoring HRC, who did actually win the popular vote.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Ah, thank you very much. You know, we all know US-ians love their appreviations, but without the right context they are just confusing.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I just figured it would be obvious in the context of "person who won the 2016 US presidential popular vote" mb.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Somehow it is annoying for a lot people when appreviations are used and people expect to know the context.

    Would you know the Context when I talk about FJS buying tanks that not even the manufacturer liked, or the planes that became known as "the widow maker"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    You were expected to know the context which is the content of my comment before replying, yes.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    No, because we're used to get full names... I didn't even know Hillary Clinton has a middle name. In german media she's always just Hillary Clinton.

    And I think this is some US defaultism the world shakes it's head over.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    The inverse applies to Trump. He is a T-rex to his fellow Americans and allies, but a Barnie to Putin.

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