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[Article] If they ever say "we can't do anything about the deaths" (www.politico.eu)
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cross-posted from: https://piefed.blahaj.zone/post/214827

Helsinki just went a full year without a single traffic death

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[–] 37 points 1 year ago

I'd also like to point out that unlike what carbrains (and anti-progressive advocates) believe, it looks like nobody was killed by e-bikes or e-scooters, either. So we can put another myth to rest.

All the excuses about moving people are either based on complete ignorance, unwillingness to change, or a lack of respect for human life. (All three if you're Ontario Premier Doug Ford 😒).

The city has also invested in new pedestrian and cycling infrastructure, including a comprehensive network of cycling paths that span over 1,500 kilometers.

BRAVO!! GODDAMN!

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It’s hard to keep speed limits safe when people are trying to travel 2000 kilometers by car in a single day.

    How many people are doing that???? And are they doing it through residential areas? Because Helsinki lowered limits in residential areas, which is where most pedestrians and cyclists were getting killed.

    The limits were enforced with 70 new speed cameras

    This is also worth bringing up, because there have been a lot of people (even here) who claim that speed cameras do nothing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    generally drive at least 1600+ km per day.

    I don't understand, are you a long-haul truck driver? 16 hours of driving per day? That's not what the general public does. In Canada, less than 10% of commuters "drive" more than an hour. I say "drive" because I'm sure a good chunk of that time is sitting in traffic, going zero. LOL

    Highways are designed for longer distances, and you don't find pedestrians on highways, fortunately.

    We're talking about Helsinki, Finland. They aren't car crazy like North Americans, and a large number of people are not driving, so it's great to see that their safety is taken seriously. And the drop in deaths was dramatic from where they started, so kudos to them.

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    The rest of the world is never going to hear the end of this one.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    You mean the good news or the pun?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    The news. Now people will say "Helsinki had an entire year of no traffic deaths why arent you more like Helsinki"

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Actually, they'll probably go the other way:

    "Helsinki had no traffic deaths but at what cost?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Agreed. Hopefully they can repeat this success in the following years to come to show that it wasn't a fluke. My motivation for posting it here was to provoke discussion about the feasibility of doing something like this somewhere in Australia.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Impossible, I've seen Aussie Dash Cams.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yes well maybe we can set the bar a bit lower by starting with a town of say... 500 people.

    Edit: Who am I kidding. We probably need to start with a ghost town.

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    For a point of comparison, Edinburgh in Scotland (which has a smaller but fairly similar population to Helsinki both in the actual city and the surrounding metropolitan area) had an average of 629 casualties per year from 2019-2023. Assuming the national numbers apply to Edinburgh then about 2.6%, or 16 of those, would be deaths. Edinburgh is a pretty good city to get around without a car too

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