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How will this impact the people in the Epstein Files?
Does this include Marco Rubio, whose grandfather was an illegal immigrant?
Or Trump's wife who he bought from Epstein?
Wouldn't this mean that Trump's father who's parents were German and his mother who was born in Scotland weren't citizens when he was born on American soil, hence he himself isn't?
So, recursively and retroactively. So who is a citizen then? People who pay the $5m? People who are naturalized? Party loyalists? Does servitude guarantee citizenship? I would like to know more.
The more of these boxes you can check, the “safer” you are….
White.
Wealthy.
Straight.
Male.
Christian.
Party > Wealth > orientation > race/gender > religion (Just keep it quiet.)
And well-connected and have rightthink. Those are more important than the others. You can check all your boxes, but too much wrongthink and you'll be against the wall before you know what's happening.
service hasn't guaranteed citizenship since Trump scrapped the program in his first term
Not even service guarantees citizenship as multiple veterans have been deported
It's not a nation anymore it is more a club. Do they have membership discounts? /s
To that end, USCIS declared flatly that the children of immigrants who are “unlawfully present” will “no longer be U.S. citizens at birth.” They will, instead, inherit the status of their parents, rendering them detainable and deportable as infants and throughout their lives. There is no indication that the government will provide some grace period before snatching up and imprisoning this new underclass of noncitizen babies; they are apparently subject to arrest from the moment of birth.
it’s not much of a stretch to assume they’ll do the same to people born here three generations down. or six. or twenty.
fucking pieces of garbage worthless nazis these admins and anyone who supports them are.
Yeah that's smart, expel themselves
If you haven't figured out that these rules were never meant to apply to them, then I'm not sure what to say.
No it ain't, experts have been telling us the whole time that no one is safe.
Fucking fascists. We should still be accepting immigrants through Ellis Island (in my humble opinion)
No! Don't be humble about that, that's just simply how this country was founded.. and I don't mean the exploiters, I mean the countless immigrants who form the working class since then. That is more than something to take pride in.
I had a little "debate" where it was being argued the US was never a melting pot, and if it was ever, it isn't anymore. How defeatist is that? To let the undeniable presence of so many cultures wither just as these ethnonationalists intend.. You have to be bold, else you lose what you once had, or worse, never achieve anything greater.
@xylol Is one of those who brought it up.
One of the steps that will lead to mass corporate slavery.
"Former" Americans will be bought and sold, or "disposed of", to pay off their "debt" for being allowed to stay on American soil.
So. This is what will cause a revolution. Believe that.
Will anything cause a revolution?
From an outside-the-US perspective, it feels as though every incremental assault the USA’s constitution is met with a bit of tut-tutting and complaining about why elected members don’t fix things, then back to apathy 48 hours later.
If this goes through and birthright citizenship falls, so does the rest of the Constitution.
No.
To render someone stateless is a HR violation (UDHR article 15), but there are plenty of countries that do not grant citizenship simply because a person is born within their borders (eg most of Europe).
But birthright citizenship is Good, imo.
The world is pretty divided in giving citizenship based on the person's parents or on place of birth: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis
And you think trump cares?
Yeah, just like it would be really hard to do any of the constitution breaking things he has done over the years... He just does it, the supreme Court will give him a thumbs up and that's the end of it
I don't know, I don't have the answers.
I'm just sitting here watching the slomo trainwreck in progress while munching popcorn. It's all there is left to do
What do you mean? Which children born on US soil since 1868 were not granted birthright citizenship?
Indian tribe members born in reservations.
A DuckDuckGo search says that since 1924 native Americans living on reservations also get birthright citizenship. I suppose there may be a handful of native Americans born before then who are still alive, but I doubt many.
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