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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

not to promote cannibalism… uhh, but everytime I see this, I imagine a chicken thigh that thick would be amazing.

maybe extremely tough to cook though

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  • [–] 115 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    HER DAD'S TALLER. HOLY SHIT.

    1000035513

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  • [–] [S] 38 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    genetics, right? at least one of her parents had to be similarly tall.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    You might be surprised! My uncle is 170 cm tall, his wife about 165, and two of their sons are about 170. Their third son is nearly 195 cm. Yes, he's their biological child - we've checked!

    Both my aunt and uncle had tall fathers and very short mothers. Height is polygenic (multiple genes are responsible), so my cousin won the height allele lottery and inherited a higher proportion of the height increasing traits both parents carried, making him a height outlier.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I'm 201 cm both my parents are both over 6ft

    My cousin is 211cm, both his parents are under 6ft.

    That cousin isn't even related to the taller side of my family. He's sort of a freak outlier.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I am 197 cm and taller than both my parents or really anyone in my family

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Same boat. I’m 20cm taller than my dad. Do grandparents come into play? I’m really bad at biology

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Height is about 80% genetics, 20% environment (nutrition and general health). Grandparent's genetics are a factor since that is where the parents inherited their genes.

    A child inherits two copies of every gene from their parents, one copy from each. Your family could be like mine, where my grandfather was quite tall and my grandmother was unusually short, suggesting my grandfather had double pairs of genes for height and my grandmother had double pairs of genes for... not height. Their children, my mother and her siblings, then had an even assortment of tall and short genes.

    Her brother married a woman whose parents followed the same tall father/short mother pattern and they had three sons: two of about the same height as the parents (even tall/short gene mix) and one who is about 20 cm taller than the rest (few or no short genes).

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago

    I once knew a married couple with the husband at 6'8" and the wife at 4'10". For years, we all joked about them having kids, and either would quip "logistics". I was part of the family gathering during the birth of their first child, and a caesarian was essential. 🙃

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I mean not neccesarily. Both my parents are at least 15cm shorter than me. My mum is quite tall (looking at averages she falls in the 20th percentile but still is around 175cm) but my dad is average height at 48th percentile. And yet I fall in the 1st to 2nd percentile.

    Both my brothers are about as tall as my dad and the only one even close to my height is one of my mother's cousins.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I was complaining that I thought my kids would all be my height or a little taller because my ex was a little bit taller than me, so should they not be the average of our heights?

    My kid who did genetics in school says no, the average result is add mom and dads heights, divide by 2 but then add 10cm for boys, subtract 10cm for girls. So if I wanted girls my height I would need a man taller than me. And boy children would likely end up taller than either of us.

    Obviously it's not an unbreakable rule, but a likely result.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    If I do your formula I would be around 186cm tall. I am in fact around 196. My brothers do fall more in line with one being 184 and the other 182.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    My parents had a big height gap, mom 163 in cm, dad 193. So the average is 178. My sister is 178cm, I am 175. I guess that's why I expected my daughters to be the average of our heights. My brothers are 188 cm. So all of us are in between the heights of the parents but there's a lot of "in between".

    My mom's parents were actually both quite tall though, her mom my height, which for back then was really tall, she (my mom) told me she kept expecting to get taller than her mom like the rest of her friends and it never happened.

    And my dad's parents were both quite short, about 165cm and all their kids as tall as my dad, so obviously there are other factors. I have no idea why my dad and his brothers were so tall. Like nearly a whole foot taller than both their parents.

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    [–] 240 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    After copulation, the female eats the male to gain energy for her offspring.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Or, you know, just sits on my face. Like, anytime she wants...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yeah I’d sniff her farts too.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I do not envy the headache you will have when you awake. In the meantime, rest well and dream of large women.

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  • [–] 71 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Poor girl. I've never met a super tall girl that liked being tall. In my teens I worked Nordstrom women's shoes. That is one of the only places with a stock of very large sizes.

    Super tall women are an involuntary circus act everywhere they go. I don't envy that. All I have met have a certain sadness in their eyes. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I see sad eyes here.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Can confirm. Wife is 6 feet tall and wishes she was half a foot shorter (in height before any comedians jump in) but we visited Bergen in Norway recently and she was so delighted that she could buy clothes off the rack and pretty shoes.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    My aunt is fairly tall (about 1.9 meters) and she told me she was so thankful for men in drag becoming a thing in the zeitgeist, as she could finally find shoes and clothes her size with ease.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    But her height is actually useful. She's a starter in a sport in which height is a useful physical trait, which helped her with university admissions with a scholarship. She's apparently a professional who has been on the roster of some overseas teams, and plays for her national team (Canada).

    Plus growing up in a family with tall people might make it easier to deal with. Her dad is former NBA player Mike Smrek and presumably has a social circle of very tall people and maybe even their very tall children.

    So I don't doubt that a lot of tall women actively dislike their own height. But this particular woman probably has reason to like being tall.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Useful until she needs to access anything mass-manufactured where height effects experience: cars, planes, cloths, beds, chairs, countertops, rakes, rollercoasters, etc.

    Having sports where height is an advantage does not change that the world was designed at about 4/5th the scale of what would be comfortable. It can be tiresome after a few decades.

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  • [+] 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    I feel you, am short dude (taller than this guy but still), also sucks. Tall dudes humble bragging about reaching those things is our inverse of yours lol.

    FWIW, the first girl I dated was taller than me and was the best relationship I had by far. I did not care about her height, and she literally had to stoop a little to kiss me lmao. Tall girls are cute too!

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    All the actually short girls (5'3" or less) I know complain as well. Feet too small for shops to have, boobs not accounted for in clothing, etc. Your perspective probably counts average and just below average girls as short.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    yeah, every smol girl talks about how they wish they were tall, but they have no idea how embarrassing it is, the way it invalidates your femininity and so on

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Some of do wish we were tall. Not all of us care what a potential mate finds "cute". We want to be able to be safe wearing seatbelts instead of higher chances of decapitation. We want to be responded to like adults, especially in our 40's, instead of treated like children. We want to be independent while working on and around our homes without fear of falling of stools and ladders to put dishes away or calling a man for help. Being told a job your interested in wouldn't be a good fit, because of your size...

    I even have pairs of "shit stompers", as my friends call them, platform boots that give me about 2 1/2 inches more height so I can be self-reliant. Sold as "clubbing boots" but I wear them regularly for mundane shit.

    Getting literally looked down on, by everyone, everyday, gets really tiring, especially after decades of it. I am 5"3 (so not even THAT short) and can't see shit in large crowds besides asses and backs. Have been actually stepped on by tall folks (even people just at 5'6"... like, come the fuck on) who don't realize there are people shorter than their eyes and don't care to look down. My head gets hit by average and tall people's elbows (hard) in club or crowd environments because again, they have no idea someone can exist below their eyeline, or just don't care. Can't go to bars or clubs alone because we are easy "marks" so we need an adult or a man to accompany us, to dissuade sexual preditors.

    Anyone remember vehicles with bench seats? How degrading is it to not be able to reach the pedals because the seat only has 3 notches, and the closest one is still for people taller than you? Getting told "you should get yourself a booster seat" like I'm a kid in a restaurant.

    Not every girl wants to be "cute". Some of just want to "be", and be safe. Self defense classes really drilled into my head the dangers of "looking like an easy mark" it's assumed short women won't put up as much of a fight and are easier prey. Learned to carry a "big" presence, and found a lot less sketchy characters would try to approach me. Staying that alert is fucking exhausting and makes going out, at night, in cities, to large parking lots, to bars and clubs, to concerts, a lot less enjoyable.

    Sorry for the rant. But just because some folks might see short as cute, does NOT mean we short folks concur, or see that "cute" makes up for the rest of the shit and dangers we have to deal with. Or, even want to be "cute".

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    The most notable person in my life that is like this might genuinely wish she were tall, but she also wishes to be strong and muscular and so on. I always wonder how she would actually feel if she had that body though.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    She'll probably make tons of money as a professional athlete, so she's probably ok with it.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago*

    Most athletes make next to nothing. Like I worked with a 3 time Olympic track rider. At that level, the sport consumes your whole life just to complete at Olympics level. No one at the Olympics is making money at it. Everyone is broke and barely skating by. I worked with pro cycling teams and it was the same story for all, even many recognizable names are just poor people that love it in many cases. There are very very few big name celebrity types that actually make good money.

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    [–] 239 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

    For Americans who have the height mode of their brain stuck in "Freedom Units":

    Anna Smrek is roughly 6' 9"

    'Short King' is roughly 5' 3"

    ...

    For data nerds:

    Going by total data for the whole globe, all people:

    https://www.gigacalculator.com/calculators/height-percentile-calculator.php

    Anna is ... off the charts, one of if not the actual tallest adult women in the world, literally breaks the calculator.

    Anna would be at... the 99.9(8/9)% percentile of men by height, which means that if you use 8.2 billion as a world population, there are at most approximately 1.6 million men as tall or taller than her.

    EDIT: I forgor to divide by two, women vs men, so uh, 800k.

    ===

    'Short King' is under the 1st percentile of men (0.77), he is shorter than 99.3%+ of adult men.

    'Short King' would be at about the 25th percentile of women by height, which means he is actually still as tall or taller than 25% of women, approximately 2 billion.

    EDIT: I did the same forgor /2, so, 1 billion, thanks to FundMECFSResearch for catching my error!

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    Average global male height ~= 178 cm / 5' 10"

    Average global female height ~= 165 cm / 5' 5"

    ...

    Possibly also relevant:

    https://www.gotquestions.org/how-tall-was-Goliath.html

    If you use a more reasonable and realistic measurement of cubits and spans, and go with the Septuagint version of the Old Testament/Torah...

    Goliath, the mythical warrior felled by David and his sling, whose name is now just a common euphemism for 'giant'...

    Yeah he was only about 6' 6", or about 198 cm.

    So...Anna could probably roughly rest her nose on the top of Goliath's head, without bending her neck (or at least not much).

    ...

    Another fun addendum, for I guess dating data nerds?:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020

    (If someone can find a more recent study that specifically looks into this, I'd appreciate it!)

    Broadly speaking, women prefer taller men more strongly than men prefer shorter women, by a factor of roughly 2.625x.

    Women prefer, on average, a larger height difference between themselves and their partner (i.e. males being much taller than themselves) than men do. This effect is even more pronounced when examining satisfaction with actual partner height: women are most satisfied when their partner was 21 cm taller, whereas men are most satisfied when they were 8 cm taller than their partner.

    In Freedom Units, thats roughly women being most satisfied with a man 8 inches taller than them, men being most satisfied with a woman about 3 inches shorter than them.

    This means a 5' 10" average guy will tend to be well satisfied with a 5' 7" woman's height, but she will tend to not be well satisfied with the man's height, herself on average, ideally, looking for a 6' 3" man.

    Even if it was a 5' 10" man and an [EDIT: Whoops, too many numbers, too fast, this would actually be a somewhat shorter than] average 5' 3" woman, she'd still tend to ideally prefer a 5' 11" man, on average.

    So, to more accurately assess 'Short King's realistic dating pool, we actually need to find women who are 8 inches shorter than him.

    And that works out to women 4' 7" or shorter.

    Which is the 0.02 percentile... meaning that 'Short King's realistic dating pool is at worst, just as small as the number of men who are as tall or taller than Anna.

    Or, perhaps both Anna and Short King need to find partners who simply accept them and are satisfied by them via being uncommonly partner-height indifferent.

    Good luck to both of them!

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    You’re doing gods work. I googled the tallest woman alive, and she is 7 foot tall almost exactly. So this girl really is close.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Autism is my superpower rofl.

    Also good lord, 7 foot tall woman, sheesh.

    I can only hope she doesn't have some kind of debilitating form of gigantism, I know a lot the all time world record holders for height had all kinds of horrendous health problems and died fairly young.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I, for one, admire your superpower and an thankful to absorb your data dump in my short term memory!

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    This effect is even more pronounced when examining satisfaction with actual partner height: women are most satisfied when their partner was 21 cm taller, whereas men are most satisfied when they were 8 cm taller than their partner.

    I don't have access to the full article, but it sounds like they didn't examine the sliding scale of height preferences, by one's own height.

    The article says that taller people have a taller ideal height for their partners. And it also says that on average women's preference is a partner 21cm taller than themselves, and men had a preference for 8cm shorter. But from the publicly available text, it doesn't seem to report on whether that preferred delta between one's own height and the ideal partner height changed with the absolute height of themselves.

    So I'm curious: does the data support the conclusion that a 5' (1.52m) woman would prefer a 5'8" (1.73m) partner, and that a 5'8" (1.73m) woman would also still prefer that 21cm/8 inch difference, looking for a 6'4" (1.94) partner? Or is there a sliding scale where already tall people aren't exactly looking for excessively unusual outliers, and that the preference of tall women is something smaller than 21cm, such that the overall average might be that very short women prefer a big height difference but very tall women prefer a small height difference?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I am a 5'9" woman and prefer guys around my height, anecdotally all the women I know who want tall guys are themselves short.

    It's a weak preference but yeah I think since I go through life being around the same height as most guys I meet I don't have such a strong association with height as a sex difference, if that makes sense.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    That puts your ideal partner height roughly 1.8 SDs from the mean of acceptable male partner heights for all women your height...

    Which works out to something like at least 70% of women your height disagreeing with your preference, or not having anything close to that preference range themselves.

    Uh, ok, dropping out of math brain:

    Yeah I totally get that as an explanation, and that it... just isn't really something that important to you.

    But!

    This is less odd for me because I am a dude, and as the study shows, being ok with a roughly close height match, guy a little on the taller side, is the widespread ideal for guys, whereas women generally tend to hate this kind of setup, or uh, prefer it the least out if all possible partner height matchups.

    So uh, all that being said:

    So, if you're single... well I uh, happen to be just an inch taller than you, I've uh, mentioned my uh, ideals, you've mentioned yours... would you happen to be into data-dumping autists as well?

    =P

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ha! I am probably old enough to be your mom and unfortunately for you my two straight daughters have partners. But worry not, medium height man of numbers. The benefit of being able to kiss without throwing my neck out, never having to move the seat in the car, I'm sure you can sell the benefits of same-height relationships to someone.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Hahaha!

    Well, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, and either way, pleasure talking with you, hah!

    I suspect I am older than you think I am, but I appreciate an honest answer to that, all the same.

    Yeah, I have been able to uh, 'sell' a similar height pairing in the past, it was good for a time, but I guess you could say she and I both had to ramble on, different desired life paths... and perhaps oddly, that's happened to me with a few gals, something like a one to three year relationship, and then a split, sometimes mutual and amicable, sometimes very ... not that.

    C'est la vie.

    Thank you for induldging my data-nerdiness enough to give an interesting, and honest, data oriented reply.

    =D

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I don't have access to the full article, but it sounds like they didn't examine the sliding scale of height preferences, by one's own height.

    The 21cm vs 8cm is the mean, and their sample size was large enough to be statistically valid.

    I did specifically quote the part that includes 'best satisfied'.

    Ie, the 'ideal' partner height.

    Many people often choose partners that are ... close enough to many ideal traits, weighting them in different and complex ways, often not even entirely fully concsious of the nature of how they weight or order their preferences, but thats all way outside of the scope of this paper.

    Yep, its possible the uh preference differential changes as you approach extreme ends of height, but the problem is that, being a statistically representative sample, it doesn't include many people who are very short, or very tall.

    Anyway:

    https://annas-archive.org/md5/50413a744e4887cff238a542b59b19b2

    Here's the whole paper!

    But from the publicly available text, it doesn't seem to report on whether that preferred delta between one's own height and the ideal partner height changed with the absolute height of themselves.

    Yeah, that seems to be my take away as well, they don't go into precisely that in the paper.

    Or is there a sliding scale where already tall people aren't exactly looking for excessively unusual outliers, and that the preference of tall women is something smaller than 21cm, such that the overall average might be that very short women prefer a big height difference but very tall women prefer a small height difference?

    Apologies for shit tier resolution, I am on mobile:

    'Female' meaning, the male-preferred height of a female partner, 'Male' meaning the female-prefered height of a male partner, so that... may be backwards depending on your inution for reading graphs.

    Also these are 2 SD bounds, 95% CI, I kinda cropped out half the text that explains that, whoops.

    So, yes, this effect you mention does exist... but they do not seem to focus on it in the paper.

    Unfortunately, I am not seeing a visualization that or equation that more specifically and precisely answers your question of whether or not very tall or short men or women are less uh, height-choosy.

    Perhaps I am missing it?

    ....

    Here's another way they visualize their data:

    Now, here, 'Men' means men, 'Women' means women, and the x axis is [male height - female height].

    So, very broadly, yeah you see that the sort of mutual sweet spot of both partners being decently satisfied with the height difference is roughly a man being 13ish cm, roughly 5 inches taller than a woman.

    So, from that, maybe 'Short King' has a realistic shot with 4'10" women, not 4' 7"?

    ???

    ...

    We can also see that women's satisfaction with a male partner's height uh, nose dives as a women is asked about a man who is going from 13 cm taller than them, to the same height as them... but then does rebound once the heights are just inverted.

    This is also the only situation where the man is less satisfied with the pairing than the woman, on average, (untill you get to men being about 18cm taller than the woman, then its roughly the same gap as the height difference increases) but the men have huge CI intervals in this instance, indicating many men actually don't mind this much, and some men mind it extremely.

    Meanwhile, women generally dislike being taller than their man, with a yes, expanded CI range, but far less than that of the man, indicating that this is a less variable and more common ... anti-preference for most women, in general, than it is for men.

    ...

    Somewhat oddly, to me at least, we also have this pattern:

    The maximum gap in partner height satisfaction between men and women seems to be around a man being just about 3cm, or about 1 inch, taller than the woman.

    For women broadly, this is the least desirable possible pairing, while for men, it would basically be nice if they were about 2 inches or about 5cm taller..., but its not that big a deal to them, they are not that far from their maximum satisfaction.

    Meanwhile, this situation is the lowest scoring situation for women.

    It is actually worse than the woman being taller than the man.

    In case you have not guesed, I am a guy, and I find this ... fairly confusing/interesting.

    Basically this means there is a huge mismatch where guys are generally pretty ok with being just a bit taller than their gal, but women find this to be the worst, the lowest possible score they would broadly assign to a partner height difference situation, to such an extent that they'd actually be on average happier if her man was just actually shorter than her.

    ...

    But anyway, yeah, unless I am missing something, it doesn't look like this paper actually answers your question precisely.

    What you mention, the uh, height-choosyness tapering off for tall women and very short men does occur to some extent, but we... don't really seem to have that detailed to us, I am not seeing a way to mathematically compare the magnitude.

    Also again worth noting, my 'Short King' scenario was kind of a worst case scenario, as it assumes all women would only go for their ideal partner scenario.

    Some women do do this, but obviously not all, and some men also do this, but obviously not all... and numbers on the absolute or relative prevalence of that do not seem to be in this paper.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Thanks for all that. Kind of misleading picture tbh, because i thought that guy was a normal male height. 6'9 is obviously tall as shit, but when compared to someone whose like 5"2' it's gonna look way more ridiculous.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    If he was the average male height of 5' 10"... she would be uh...

    about 7' 6".

    Which would make her the tallest woman in the world, by half a foot, as per uh, ColeSloth elsewhere in this thread showing that the tallest currently alive woman being 7' tall.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    than 25% of women, approximately 2 billion.

    I think you mean 1 billion there aren’t 8 billion women on earth.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    there is no way in fuck the global average height for men is 178cm.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    ~= means approximately equal.

    https://www.gigacalculator.com/calculators/height-percentile-calculator.php

    Going by this, and using 25 as the age, which is my guesstimate for the ages in the OP image, it seems to more precisely be ... 178.4cm.

    Do you have an alternate dataset you find to be more accurate?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    there's confusing and contradicting language there but it seems to be based on US data.

    here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country

    ... populations of China and India alone are around 170cm on average. I'm too lazy to do the math for the entire world but the two most populous countries by far is a good indicator that the world average should be lower

    here https://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/average-height-for-men.htm

    it says the world average is about 171cm

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    The source I am using has options for 'The World' and over 100 countries.

    They have a whole section summarzing their data sets, if you scroll down.

    In the gigacalculator dataset, the US and World populations do not have the same mean, which indicates they are differentiating between them.

    If you are too lazy to do the math yourself, you have no grounds to criticize the source I am using, who are themselves using many, many datasets, who actually have done the math.

    Your source, howstuffworks, says its about 171cm, but they also say this varies widely, and the source they use, worlddata.info, does not actually provide a 171cm global mean adult male height anywhere.

    Go, click the about to get to howstuffworks' source. There are no given global means at all, they are per country and region.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    That’s cool but I feel like it would be a nightmare being that tall.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have one nephew at 6’10” and another that is 7’1”. They both cope well enough even when challenged with size obstacles. They are young and generally positively motivated which helps.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    The back problems will kick in early.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Why? Height doesn't automatically equate to back problems. Uneven weight distribution (belly, boobs, etc.), poor stretching habits, lack of excerise, bad posture/form/lifting, or injury equate to back problems at ANY height.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Its mostly because we gotta use the kitchen sink, bath sink, toilet chairs, bed, couch etc for mini people. So having to crouch all the time would do your back in quick.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I have a friend that is 5'7.5" and that really is the threshold. Because after that, you're taller than a standard door frame and have to duck to go in or out of anywhere.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Being much closer to her height than his I can confidently say that's just not true, short of your feet literally hanging off the end of a bed. You just have bad posture, bad form, and don't stretch.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I actually know someone who is that tall and he has a daughter who is tiny. It's really awkward talking to both of them at the same time because he stands at a normal distance which really feels far too close because of how tall he is, but if you step back you feel like you're about half a mile away from his daughter.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago* (3 children)
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