If this isn't a targetted advert in my browser, I don't know what is.

And here's where you turn it off:

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[–] 104 points 1 day ago (8 children)

The fact that you can turn it off is a good thing and is why Firefox is a good option.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    Yeah like is anyone paying for Firefox? The only reason is still exist are the sponsors. Hell, one of the biggest by far was (is?) Google.

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  • [–] 11 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    I wouldn't mind giving money to mozilla if it means we all get a better product that isn't subservient to big tech

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  • [–] 3 points 19 hours ago* (1 child)

    That is fair, though I think it would be a tough pill to swallow for most people, and Firefox is neither leading the charts nor do they have any significant advantage over the competition in web browsing to roll out a bold move like this.
    It's a tough position. I do use it and hope they make it (*remain in business), just for the sake of competition.

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  • [–] 1 point 15 hours ago

    Id happily pay for firefox without their ai bullshit

    I also pay for winrar, with a yearly subscription on android, even though im not using it anymore.

    And you should too.

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  • [–] 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    I would be happy to pay them for brave origin equivalent of a stripped down Firefox without the sponsorships. Could use forks or disable stuff but I'm not against paying them for it to support them if that is something they offered.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

    I tell people Waterfox if you just want Firefox without the bullshit.

    LibreWolf if you're more hardcore about privacy and are willing to deal with the occasional site not working.

    I have both installed but mainly use LibreWolf. I have Waterfox for "irl stuff" like banking/shopping, etc stuff that doesn't approve of VPN use and I have to enter my real details into anyway.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Yup, waterfox on phone, librewolf on pc 🤘

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    You mean ironfox on phone, librewolf on PC?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    What's the difference between waterfox and ironfox?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 17 hours ago

    LibreWolf if you’re more hardcore about privacy and are willing to deal with the occasional site not working.

    I used both Libre and Firefox; sometimes you need a browser that will just load the website without you having to faff about.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    Thanks for making me aware that there was yet another bullshit "feature" I needed to disable.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Yeah, i gave up self managing the adware and went to the Firefox fork, LibreWolf

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    I've considered doing the same myself. How has it been working out for you?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    been running it for a year, not bad, had to just allow webgl coz so many sites won't load properly without it

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    That's good news as far as I'm concerned. I've got WebGL disabled in Firefox now. Frankly, if a website needs direct access to my GPU to run, I don't need that website.

    What does add-on support look like? The baseline privacy looks (very) good, but I think I'd still like things like umatrix to block unnecessary or unwanted resource requests and to prevent running any extraneous javascript etc. An ad-blocker like ublock origin goes without saying. I refuse to access the WWW without one.

    If that ever becomes impossible, I'll switch to Gemini exclusively :)

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  • [–] 30 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

    I wanted to see what Floorp does and got this on my first test

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  • [–] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

    anyone know the about:config value key?

    edit: found it. Set browser.urlbar.suggest.quicksuggest.all to false. For anyone not using user.js, I highly recommend it. It means you only ever have to find these settings once. I keep mine in a git repo so it's easy to transport between machines.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Can you expand on user.js.

    Is that the arkenfox user profile? How do you upload it? How often is it updated?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Sure. User.js is a file you can add in your Firefox profile directory which gets loaded each time Firefox starts.

    Pretty good documentation here: https://kb.mozillazine.org/User.js_file

    The arkenfox one is a fully loaded pro-privacy user.js made by some knowledgeable people. I did use that one for my initial version iirc: https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/blob/master/user.js

    How often do I update it? Just when mozilla rolls out a new feature I don't like. I commit it to my repo, that way I easily take my settings to each different machine. You cannot change every FF setting with that file, but you can change the majority of them.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (3 children)

    So two things: basically install user.js and forget it (except changing minor settings you want).

    What about recommended extesnsions. It just says minimize extensions (which is a good policy), but which extensions are recommended to use with it.

    Are there certain privacy extensions that are redundant because of it?

    I understand I may be asking things outside of your purview, but I am curious how does this work.

    Interesting enough, if I visit a fingerprinting site such as kuber.studio/cookie, it still recognizes me as a visitor, even with user.js.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago* (2 children)

    Yeah, I'm not a privacy expert. And I didn't ever think of user.js as privacy protection personally. I use it to turn off AI and other things that annoy me. Privacy-wise I use OBO and few others. The arkenfox settings I used as a basis but I removed anything that wasn't ai related or that I didn't understand.

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  • [–] 1 point 16 hours ago (1 child)

    I think the main protection I'm looking for at the moment is fingerprinting protection. ON their site they do claim that, but there isn't much info (at least that I can understand about that).

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    [–] 57 points 1 day ago* (5 children)

    If this isn’t a targetted advert in my browser, I don’t know what is.

    Somewhere, a dastardly Mozilla engineer is cursing you out for figuring it out, even though they specifically labeled it ‘Sponsored’ as a double-bluff.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago

    I am guessing the build in flathub ships with this turned off, I dont even have firefox suggest as a settings area. Nor is it in the build that ships with Fedora

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  • [–] 7 points 18 hours ago (1 child)

    Waterfox, Ironfox, Fennec, others

    There's so many Firefox forks, just use that

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (14 children)

    Ah, dang. This is as real bummer. What do we do instead? Are we at the point of paying for this app?

    I'm thinking about Signal too: software isn't free so where does the spend come from?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I have started regularly donating to foss projects, especially those who are clear on their limits of ai in code. Been donating to signal for years too.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    https://servo.org would be the one to donate to for web independence specifically.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

    They're developing a new web engine, so an alternative to Blink/Chromium, Gecko, and WebKit.

    The problem with Blink is that it's controlled by Google.

    The problem with Gecko is that it's not portable at all - it can basically only be used in Firefox and Firefox forks. It's completely Mozilla and cannot be meaningfully detached.

    WebKit is controlled by Apple, and GNOME Web is basically the only browser other than Safari using it.

    Servo is modern and has some technical advantages I don't fully understand. It's made to integrate well in other projects, making it easy to integrate the web into all sorts of projects. Development was started by Mozilla, abandoned, and then taken over by the Linux foundation.

    I don't trust Mozilla these days, and I never trust Google or Apple (though WebKit is cool). So I'm placing my bets on the Linux foundation.

    (Web independence is of course many things, but I was thinking in terms of web browsers. Obviously a lot of open source projects contribute to the independent web in all kinds of ways.)

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Check the box and forget the feature ever existed until you install the browser again from scratch. It's been there for 5 years, so it's not exactly a new or unsolved problem.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Okay, see you the next time this comes up.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    It comes up every few months because someone forgets they ticked it off 5 years ago when the feature first released and then they reset their browser.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    I would pay for Firefox if they kept updates like that off by default. Maybe they could have a screen that shows new options you can turn on which I'd happily ignore most of the time. It obviously takes tons of time to build a web browser so I expect it to get paid for somehow, but yeah, the on-by-default enshittification is no good.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    as someone else suggested, a fork is the best way to go. if you are most concerned about privacy, Liberwolf is the way to go. if you want privacy, but aren't willing to go as far as Librewolf does, then Waterfox is a solid alternative that provides better privacy than Firefox.

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  • [–] 1 point 18 hours ago

    Signal is funded by donations. They got a few pretty big ones a while ago from some wealthy donors, so I don't know whether the donations by normal people by now are enough to cover their costs. I try to donate a bit though, at least enough to cover my costs and those of a few of my friends.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    Never been a problem on my browser.

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  • [–] 10 points 19 hours ago

    like all you have to do is turn off the option in settings; you can even add it to your policies.json to end it everywhere.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    And here's where you turn it off:

    Yeah. That’s why none of us ever see that crap. It’s easy.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    You know the reason why I see it? Because it's a new feature. I already had all of the other rubbish turned off - but guess what - they turn it on for you by default.

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