Ok in Democrats' defence, marking the vans and making the ICE goons identifiable is a really good way to get some good ol'-fashioned home justice delivered upon them.
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Abolish ICE! Who needs immigration enforcement when borders ought to be open? Nobody! It's an inherently fascist idea, and it flies in the face of the ideals America pretends to stand for. I love the idea of a land of the free, a place where everyone has equal opportunity, where everyone can live a prosperous life. That land never existed, but it could if we all wanted it to, and acted on that desire.
That said, I'm 'Strayan, so best I can do in terms of America is spread the word for yous.
Name one country that has completely open borders. Everyone controls immigration. The US has just taken it too far.
Yolngu. Most people travelling to Yolngu country don't attend any kind of immigration process. Not even a Welcome to Country, although they should. So you can argue the borders aren't completely open because there's a process that exists, but nobody faces any penalties whatsoever for breaking it. And it's not designed to keep people out, it's only designed to ensure people understand the local cultural protocols.
time for ice to start melting. take their families. be gratuitous with collateral damage. just disappear them. dissolve them in things. make it so even if they catch you, they'll never know for sure.
Not good enough. Abolish it.
Don't play into the game.
It's time for us as the people to be as annoying as possible. Harass your reps for change until they want to put their heads through a wall.
concentration camps !
deportations !
kidnapping !
republicans: do it to everyone! democrats: do it to some!
err... what? don't you mean don't do it at all?
Abolish ICE and repeal the Patriot Act you fucking pussies.
The Patriot Act was passed as a "temporary measure" and ended in 2015.
It was modified and replaced with the USA Freedom Act that did all the same things and added some new crimes on top.
me: cars are making the landsape unlivable
my father: electrify! the! cars!
To be fair, that WOULD help a lot.
Of course, expanding (and electrifying) mass transit as well as making cities walkable would help a LOT more, but it's still not like zero emission cars isn't MUCH better than the toxic status quo π€·π»
to be fair, if the ICE agents took their masks off and wore body cameras, that would help a lot. of course, better training for ICE agents would help a lot more, but it's not like maskless agents isn't much better than the status quo π€·ββοΈ
The training thing is a trap. They really like it when people demand better training, because they're going to hire some white nationalist buddy of whatever fascist currently runs the organization to talk to them for a few days about how to more effectively hide evidence of the crimes they're committing, and say "yup, we did more training!"
We need audited training, enforced standards, and accountability
The only thing we need for it is abolition. ICE doesn't need to nor should exist.
Obviously we're going to need a bigger budget for that training too!
Ah yes better training is what the SS needs, of course. liberals....
electrified cars would help in the same way a band aid helps a bullet wound.
sure I guess its theoretically better than nothing, but it won't stop you dying and it gets in the way of any real solution a competent person would provide.
That's just not true.
You don't seem to have any idea how much of the world's harmful emissions come from cars and the refining of fossil fuel for cars.
Over 50,000 people in the US alone die from auto emissions every year, compared to 34k from auto accidents.
To say that getting rid of those emissions "won't stop you from dying" just because other things would help even more is some tunnel vision nonsense.
auto emissions aren't just fuel reaction byproducts. you know when your tires and brakes wear down? where do you think that mass goes? its a very wasteful form of transit, and moving tons of steel and lithium for every 1-3 hundred pounds of person is insane. bare bones ICE augmented bikes would be a greener solution than electric cars. if we switched all our infrastructure to electric cars, wed need more sodium and lithium than exists on earth and a nuclear power plant for every truck stop, complete with waste-heat outlets and and radioactive waste disposal.
electric trains running overhead wire from green or glowy energy sources and ebikes/scooters or walking to cover last mile is of course ideal, the economy of scale and efficiency of form from trains and barges and reducing excess mass moved from using escooters and ebikes for last mile trips may actually keep industrial society viable.
sorry, but under capitalism you can't use stopgap measures. natural gas was a harm reduction measure, now natural gas profits and lobbies are a barrier to green energy and electrification.
That's last mile for humans. What about last mile for freight?
Even with the added transit time on public transit, it is SIGNIFICANTLY easier and more pleasant than driving since your attention isnβt chained to making sure you donβt kill someone. If you spend a couple of hours farting around on the internet per day you can do that while commuting.
If you have a long distance to commute then youβre probably not the only one, and your city needs more commuter buses (fewer stops between destinations).
Florida is its own beast, here in Los Angeles I spend probably 10+ hours a week on transit and itβs very memorable to even see an argument or deal with truly bad smells (homeless people are common but can be refused service if they smell). Definitely never seen any violence, although I know it happens. I imagine youβre probably more likely to get in a wreck than be attacked on public transit.
What did I miss from mangocats? Can't find the comments in the modlog, just the ban.
Stupid curiosity
(sigh) Iβm so fuckin used to living under authoritarianism that it took me a second to understand what the problem was in this meme
We really need to burn it all to the ground
Brunch Brunch Brunch! A side of fascism and brunch!
In the immortal words of the late Patrick Stewart: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkY88kvkdvU
What happened to abolishing ICE? Dems win then immediately back off thier promises? Shocking...
Most Democrats didn't promise anything. This is the best the average dem campaigned on. There were plenty better that did in fact say and still say they want to abolish ice though.
Check the date, itβs several years old
What happened to abolishing ICE?
Same thing that always happens.
Politicians make big claims to get elected, then lobbying takes over what actually gets done.
The rules are there to facilitate the violence, but conservatives just couldn't bring themselves to stay in their lane.
Now Democrats will be forced to increase funding for ICE to pay for all the new signage on the kidnap-mobiles.
Umm, no you stupid fucks. It's time to abolish ICE and put the criminals in prison. Grow some goddamn balls you fucking pussies.
Off with their heads. Every dem that capitulates can get in line.
Im just here to wait for the libs I've tagged as blue maga to pop into this post
they are busy creating Hoovering ops to call us Russian agents. Even Macron joined in the hooverism.
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