Conservative pundits revived the narrative almost immediately, illustrating the centrality of xenophobia to their coverage

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[–] 66 points 2 days ago (8 children)

These people are idiots, most of the dems haven't even taken office yet.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 days ago

    The people who watch this shit are too moronic to understand cause and effect if it isn't immediate. They have to make it seem like the world is ending right away, or their viewers wouldn't be able to put 2 and 2 together to get 5

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    That's the funny part, all the doom and gloom, and yet the ones they wanted are still driving the bus.

    They'll be back once reminded in January, and that's when we have to be on our guard for any organized effort. I'd love to say that seems like something that could never happen, and yet... it did, so it can again.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 days ago

    It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Is it the SAME caravan as Trump's last term???

    They stopped till they were needed again?

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  • [–] 109 points 2 days ago* (7 children)

    It’s really amazing how “immigrant caravans“ only are ever a problem when convenient for Republicans, and completely vanish at any other time.

    Also amazing? Nobody has ever actually seen one of these “immigrant caravans”, nor managed to interview anyone who is allegedly been part of one. it’s almost as if they don’t actually exist and never have.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

    They do exist and they travel from South America through Mexico all the way up to the US. They're often filmed throughout their journey. Our government here in Mexico has set up tents for them many times as part of our humanitarian aid, and one time it created a controversy because an immigrant was interviewed saying she didn't like our beans. She was smeared as ungrateful, undeserving and whatnot in the news and dragged all over social media, as you can imagine. I get the sentiment but I'm not sure why their existence is being questioned, tbh.

    https://www.infobae.com/mexico/2026/11/07/tercera-caravana-de-migrantes-hondurenos-ingresa-a-mexico-por-la-frontera-sur/

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago* (5 children)

    Yeah they 100% genuinely exist. Migrants arriving in mass numbers seeking asylum is certainly a thing that has happened up until this administration decided to accept literally zero of them.

    The thing is not that they dont exist, its that in general it is a really positive thing for the country and especially for the economy that they do. Every migrant that comes here fills jobs that arent being filled otherwise, and for cheaper than any native born citizen would do it for. Their need for businesses and services creates a larger market for everyone else. Migrants also tend to start businesses at rates that blow native born citizens out of the water. Theyre literally one of the most beneficial groups to have. Republicans are just stupid xenophobes that fail to understand any of that because “brown people different”

    The fact that their comment has 84 upvotes on a sub thats literally about preventing disinformation is super ironic

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    [accept jobs] for cheaper than any native born citizen would do it for.

    This is wrong on so many levels.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

    In some ways it is and in some its not. Personally I do believe that there shouldnt be an exemption to minimum wage laws for farm work, and that is messed up.

    That said, it still wouldnt change the fact that those would be the primary jobs taken by migrants. The baseline for most entry level service jobs in the US, which makes up the majority of jobs available, is that someone has a highschool level education and is fluent in speaking English. Even that is just a baseline for making minimum wage or above it to whatever degree the market ends up setting as the functional minimum. Even if they did speak English more fluently and had a GED, then there is still a ton of competition in that market segment because those are generally the basic standards required to be met by every native born citizen at the very least

    Migrants arent getting underpaid just because people dont want to pay them. They are getting underpaid because they dont have that many options to not be underpaid in the way the economy functions right now. Its also part of why they take the risk of starting businesses more often, because then it really doesnt matter if they meet minimum standards of communication or education.

    And as much as it is in many ways exploitative, the same would be true in the inverse. You could have a PhD in the US but realistically not be able to do much other than drive an uber if you moved to Medellin or Mexico City or whatever. Youd need to be fluent in Spanish to get anything other than a low paying job. Its market forces more than anything

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    Market forces!? No it’s the destruction of worker power through artificial abundance of low wage workers. In Holland we have a union of house cleaners and legally protected trade standards (cao) sadly the amount of people who take part in protests is small - progress is non existent or devolving.

    https://www.fnv.nl/cao-sector/schoonmaak/cao-schoonmaak/actie

    That’s nothing compared to polish farm workers who don’t even know their rights to even request a state provided lawyer to bring their employer to court.

    But the fact still remains that immigrants who don’t have the same rights create tthe conditions of a lower class that dare not ask for more.

    Just like schooling is valued, so should dirty or physically difficult jobs be rewarded.

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  • [–] 1 point 21 hours ago

    Youre kind of proving my point without realizing it. A union is a mitigating factor, just as regulations (like a minimum wage) are, against a full blown brutal capitalistic “free market”. One without any limits on the exploitation of working people.

    Like I said before, migrants (especially without work authorization) are basically screwed in the economy as it is right now. No unions, virtually no regulations. Not much chance to get out of it either. They are one subset of society that is still subject to the most brutal unmitigated capitalist forces in that sector of the labor market.

    The government knows and has always known there are tens of millions of people working under the table without any labor protection, but they never really attempt to do anything about it. Up until deciding to try and deport many of them, which is just idiotic. Not to mention the execution of it being borderline genocidal

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  • [–] 15 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I'm more worried about MAGA caravans. They're a LOT more dangerous, i.e. Jan 6

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  • [–] 31 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    I'm still waiting for the last one to arrive.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 day ago

    According to a video my uncle in law was just sharing with me, they're in my neighborhood screaming "Death to America". Which is weird because I'm the only one in my street shouting that and I'm very much not an immigrant

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago

    I invite the migrants to replace Republicans. It is clear that each and every Republican is a Dogey Confederate, and are shitty humans.

    Migrants make America a better place to live, and their default alignment isn't Stupid Evil.

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    [–] 11 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Bit late this time dont yall think?

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  • [–] 14 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Is the immigrant caravan in the room with us right now?

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  • These immigrant caravans are coming to take get free housing and healthcare funded by taxpayer money for the sole purpose of dragging kids out of class at public schools and having gender reassignment surgery forced upon them under sharia law with the war on Christmas

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  • [–] 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

    criminals who’s hobbies include raping and murdering children run the government and are rapidly installing an AI authoritarian driven mass surveillance system and are owned by a fascist fundamentalist apartheid child trafficking colony but oh no omg people with more skin melanin exist so be afraid

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  • MAGAts squeal & squeak like the mindless grubs they are. Per usual. 😏

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    They all started writhing and squealing about made-up shit that they tried to pull off as cancel-culture “gotchas” like “liberals CLAIM to be feminists yet they voted for a religion that hates women”

    They’re trying to do all the criticisms we have of them back to us without realizing our criticism wasn’t a hollow power grab. They (the right) actually campaigned on rolling back rights for individuals in many cases.

    Whatever we’re all done playing the nonsense game, except the neolibs who don’t appear to able to function without it but who cares about them they’re washed

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    pikachuface.jpg

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  • [–] 1 point 23 hours ago

    Thank god they're coming here. With Jensen Huang popping the AI bubble with his dick, we're gonna need to fire all the AI employees and replace them with these migrants.

    I want all of them manning the Flock and Axon cameras to spy on me to make sure I don't pick up a loose $20 at the Walmart down the street across from the Sam's Club. You know the place.

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    [–] 27 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    My next door neighbors are immigrants and very nice ppl who proactively shoveled my old ass out of the snow this year. Several more of my neighbors are immigrants. Lots of the people who live and work in my town are immigrants. Several of my colleagues are immigrants. (One set of my grandparents were immigrants.) Bring on the immigrants.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Huh. Might have worked better if they did that before the election?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Think about their target demo, though. These people likely have no idea that election outcomes don't take effect immediately. Democrats have not even been sworn in, but I bet the average Faux watcher has no idea how that works...but they'll eat up that donnie is still fighting the super terrible Biden economy (lol), nearly 2 years later.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Sure, but there was an election they wanted to win recently, and I do not think they can keep up migrant caravan fever for two years without people becoming fatigued? So the timing seems weird.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago*

    That's a good point. No idea. Maybe it's a test run to see how much of an impact they think they can have on throwing the 2028 election.

    I could easily see the conservatives trying to do A/B testing to see how they can peel off people to vote R. You saw them freaking out about how they lost white people. Constantly talking about "men in women's sports" didn't work out quite the way they thought it would, so maybe they are going back to the "open borders!!!111" narrative to see what that does.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago

    They could declare "open borders" even before one new Democrat is sworn in and donnie is still president, and I bet a whole lot of morons will believe it.

    I've already seen failtrolls whining their gas prices didn't go down yet...nothing like a total dumbass trying to own someone else without even knowing the very basics.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    Can't do the budget because it's still Trump in office.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Fox being dumb is not news worthy, downvote bury and move on

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