AI is here to stay. There will most likley be some crash in the near future, but Pandaora is let the evil out of her the box and AI will remain part of our reality in some shape or form.

The way language goes i personally expect the word "slop" to change into a neutral term, maybe as a way to describe that something is using AI, but without the negative connotation the word carries today. I can imagine this to happen within the next five to ten years. There may very much be a Windows 12 add that empasizes how much slop they used to make it.

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[–] 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

"slop" isn't a word that was invented for AI, it's always been used to describe something disorganized and messy.

As long as AI produces disorganized, messy content, that content is "slop".

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 days ago* (3 children)

    Always?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slop_(clothing)

    In 16th- to 19th-century Europe and North America, the slop trade was the manufacture and sale of slop, cheap ready-made clothing

    By semantic change, "slop", which had once related to the procurement of naval clothing, was applied generally to ready-made garments. By a further semantic change during the 19th century, "slop" became a term applied to all clothing that was not skillfully tailor-made for the customer: so might refer to machine-cut and machine-stitched garments, those made by apprentices or those less skilled, and those sold second-hand. The connotation of low quality carried over to boots, and furniture.

    Words do change over time.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago* (2 children)

    Always?

    Nope.

    Words do change over time.

    Did someone tell you words never change? My comment must have been a revelation for you.

    You're welcome!

    Go look up "etymology", the whole field is going to blow your mind.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    "slop" isn't a word that was invented for AI, it's always been used to describe something disorganized and messy.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago*

    Oh, I see your confusion.

    Very good! You did a very good job!

    Sometimes words have more than one definition! While "slop" has(yes) always described something messy and disorganized, sometimes, like many other words, "slop" can also, at the same time, have other definitions, and will continue to evolve over time, like most words.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Pandora was never inside the box. She safeguarded a container which held various deadly evils and her curiosity led to her accidentally releasing those evils into the world.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago

    This is sus

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  • [–] 27 points 2 days ago (13 children)

    AI is here to stay

    Always the same sentence from cog suckers. It's never something new or original.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

    (edit: stupid writing mistakes)

    Do i understand you correct that you expect humanity to at one point no longer use machine learning and/or generative models?

    Because I'd be honestly interested in the train of thought leading to that - I can't imagine it.

    The corporate machine drying up, sure - but removing use? No idea.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    I don't understand what you're saying but: AI is not here to stay, it's not inevitable, and should be avoided by most people because it makes them stupid.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    My question is: "how?"

    I can't imagine a path where what you're calling "AI" (fixing marketing term) will disappear again.

    "Inevitable" is a weird term die me - it's here. Someone must happen for it to disappear again.

    Perhaps you're thinking of specific user groups? ( "Makes most people stupid" for example is something I fully get. Just like Facebook though and that never went away either :( )

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago* (2 children)

    When they say "AI is here to stay" they mean "you cannot avoid it" (aka FOMO, the same propaganda they used for bitcoins and NFTs, see how quickly they all switched to AI?) which is wrong because I have been avoiding it easily since the beginning.

    Yes it is technically here to stay like a cancer, it doesn't mean I have to suffer.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 days ago*

    No idea how "they" use this. But i mean it much in the way Scipitie here has correctly understood it. AI is here. We don't have to like it, personally i use zero AI in my live. But the technology has it's foothold widh the masses by now. I don't see how it would ever go away again. It will transform, post crash and all, but it won't go away.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Do i understand you correct that you expect humanity to at I've point no longer use maybe learning

    💀

    You couldn't have underlined the top level guy's comment any better than this.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (2 children)

    Haha a LLM wouldn't have made these mistakes though. I will rather make my mistakes than delegate communicating with people to my machine, let alone someone else's.

    Thanks for calling it out, will fix!

    Edit: it's hilarious though that you take a non LLM users error as proof that LLMs will go away because their users get dumber. I should be your proof that at least my writing should be replaced by a machine, no?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Just blame autocorrect, it's probably accurately at fault anyway.

    Also though, llms and ml aren't "ai" any more than a bolt is your car.

    edit: you also missed a grammar mistake in the other comment

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago

    absolutely not. slop does not and will never sound good.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago

    I doubt that. The word slopis older than LLMs, if they will become more accepted the word slop would be used less, not change its meaning

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago

    I mean, it already did, didn't it? Iirc slop used to just mean low effort, cheap, formulaic, and safe content or whatever you're describing. Now to most people, it just means anything made using generative AI, which in most if not all cases would fit this definition, but now it heavily implies AI use now

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    I suspect "slop" will come to mean anything the speaker, personally, doesn't like. It's already slowly heading that way; a lot of the anti-AI people already accuse any writing they hate as being AI generated, while giving a pass to whatever they personally appreciate. Recent studies show that a person's intuition about if text is AI or not is approximately as accurate as a coin toss.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    As evidenced by at least one person implying my original message was slop because they disliked it. I said AI without adding the appropriate curse words with it, so it's my own fault i guess.

    I can still see a positive transformation of the word slop over time. Many slurs have been adopted in the past and turned on their head. I belive it is called reappropriation.

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  • Thought slop means low effort.

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