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Because the wealthy who push propaganda in both structure and content down our throats 24/7 do not benefit from socialism.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Because they don't understand either one.

    It started with the cold war, though, when Communism became the boogeyman.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Well, maybe tankies hadn't warped the idea of socialism, broken it beyond any meaningful value to the working class and turned it into surrealist, blood-drenched terror the working class wouldn't be so damn afraid of it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Even their surrealist blood drenched terror is (a little bit) pref to fasch tho.

    It diesnt make ssnse to fear that and not fascism unless you've been brainwashed.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    unless you’ve been brainwashed.

    If you live in a nation state (which you do), you have already been subjected to the brainwashing - fascism is literally written into the laws of every one of them. It's not people like Trump that normalises fascism - it was normalised a long time ago. Every time you see a cop driving down the street and understand that this cop can perpetrate any kind of violence they want on you while you are not allowed to defend yourself against any of it - that's normalised fascism.

    This is why people fear fascism less - it's just an escalation of the violent "normality" we already exist in.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't disagree with anything you said but none of it was pithy or fun. -20 points.

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I think it's more to do with that no one questions how horrible fascism is

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    I think it's very easy to just point at propaganda or a lack of effective outreach, but I think a big part is that we're a low-trust society, and most people have a hard time believing that they won't be excluded from the collective, because that's not our experience elsewhere in life.

    Also, fascism doesn't call itself fascism. So the real question as most people perceive it is, "why is socialism scarier than conservativism". We know it's actually fascism, and thus know to fear it, but most don't.

    Lastly, I think the false narrative of meritocracism in capitalist/ fascist societies plays into the psychological bias where humans tend to perceive themselves as average or above average, and makes people vote for rigid hierarchy (where they all think they'll be closer to the top than the bottom), against their own interest.

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