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Thundermail - Privacy-Focused Email from Thunderbird (explore.thunderbird.net)
submitted 1 week ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.world
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Introducing Thundermail. Ad free, privacy-first email from Thunderbird that puts you in control. You might know Thunderbird as the app you use to manage email. Now we’re building the email service behind it, too. Thundermail is an inbox with no ads and no data selling.

(Sorry if this has been posted before, I can remove it if so but this was news to me)

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[–] 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wanted to give it a try, accepted into the beta, but the beta only accepts the full annual payment... which is ridiculous for a beta product.

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    • [–] 14 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    The question I ask every time I see this posted:

    Who has access to my data at rest?

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    • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I was interested until I read the TOS which says they can share my info with third parties for $$$. Totally ironic and complete bullshit.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    Do you recall what line does it says that?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

    https://tb.pro/en-US/privacy/

    Personal Data may be shared with MZLA affiliates, including Mozilla Foundation and Mozilla Corporation, to facilitate customer service, marketing, order fulfillment, billing, technical support, and legal and compliance obligations.

    Subprocessors and Service Providers: We may use vendors to provide services on our behalf, including hosting, marketing, social, analytics, support ticketing, credit card processing, or security services. They are bound by contractual obligations to ensure the security, privacy, and confidentiality of your information. Please visit this page to see our list of Subprocessors.

    So second block is basically "even though we market ourselves as a privacy service, we're going to share your data with a bunch of third party companies for stuff like marketing, social, and analytics (gee, I wonder what companies those could be), but they promise to not share with anyone else (unless they have sub contractors too).

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    • [–] 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    I'm not particularly interested in anything that's not encrypted or not on my personal server.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    That's a fair point, but if it's encrypted like Proton Mail, is it even email at that point?

    I guess they could apply a Proton-like system that automatically encrypts everything and build in a Proton Bridge equivalent into their clients, but that would be some favoritism that might be uncomfortable.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    If you think you can protect your own server, I have a bridge to sell you.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    I promise I can protect my own server better than Mozilla can (or will).

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    • [–] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Sounds like they weren't quite ready for primetime, but rushed to a launch after Proton had their whole AI re-interview debacle. Although, now that Proton has reversed that plan, this puts them in an awkward spot...

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