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[–] 138 points 1 year ago (10 children)

What is this, a Seinfeld episode?

Jerry: "How'd the date go last night?"

Elaine: "Ugh, total bust! We spent the whole time arguing about calamari!"

Jerry: "Arguing about calamari? Like fried squid?"

Elaine gestures there you go

George: "It's deep fried, what's not to like?"

Elaine: "He doesn't even know what it is!"

Jerry: "Never had calamari? What a sad life..."

Kramer enters. Applause.

Elaine: "Kramer. What's calamari?"

Kramer: "Disgusting. That's what it is."

Jerry: "We're not talking about the same calamari here."

Kramer: "It's like chewing on rubber bands!"

Jerry: "You're not still going to Bosco's are you?"

Kramer: "I like Bosco."

George: "Didn't the health board shut them down?"

Kramer: "That's how you know it's authentic."

Elaine: "Can we get back to my problem, please?"

Jerry: "I'll tell you what, let's all go out. Elaine, you can bring you can bring your boyfriend. I'll show you all what calamari is supposed to taste like."

Elaine: "Well, do the have caviar?"

Jerry: "Caviar? What am I made of money? Why caviar?"

Elaine: "That's what he thinks calamari is!"

George: "Did you correct him?"

Elaine: "Yes, George, I corrected him. I corrected him for 45 minutes!"

Kramer: "Well why didn't you just order the calamari and show him?"

Elaine: "We were at a coffee shop."

Kramer: "Oh, they don't serve calamari at coffee shops."

Elaine: "...I know. I didn't expect to have to defend the reality of what calamari is when we made the date."

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Were you a writer for the show, what the fuck, this is so accurate

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've only ever seen a couple of episodes and I was shocked at how well this script fit what I've seen.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    George: "Didn't the health board shut them down?"

    Kramer: "That's how you know it's authentic."

    I've had this conversation

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  • [–] 103 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Maybe man's Estonian. Caviar in Estonian is "kalamari" which means fishberry

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Holy shit, imagine how frustrating it would be to be that guy is this was the case. Especially if one of the bystanders spoke up.

    I’d like to hope they could all have a good laugh about it in the end at least.

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  • [–] 71 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Nice of him to get the red flags out on the table early though!

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    His one visible mistake is not backing down when confronted with a different opinion and re-evaluating.

    Refusing to back down is the red flag, yes

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "The only red flag was the red flag"

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Mistakes are fine, it's how you handle them. Instead of saying, "huh, I'm not sure if you're right or not; let's look it up, or just move on" he decided to adamantly defend his (incorrect) position.

    Kinda like what you're doing! Hahey!

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Somehow you're the dumb asshole on two of the last two threads I read (the other one being about appropriate songs on a hiking trail). Impressive.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Facts and opinions are two different things.

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  • [+] -32 points 1 year ago (7 children)
  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Facts exist outside of you. Facts are already confirmed/researched and we just call upon them in conversation.

    If an argument is based around a fact, there is indeed a right and wrong side. The accuracy of your recall of a given fact is the meaure of rightness in the argument.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Maybe you should back down and re-evaluate

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How did you get that from what I said?

    Here lemme flip the script on you. If you can't listen to someone and absorb information without immediately conjuring negative assumptions about them, you might not be fun to be with either.

    The point was that facts are facts. The fact that calamari is not caviar is not malleable (unless you're in Estonia I suppose lol). It's just a cold hard fact that outside of Estonia they're two completely different things. In this situation there is no spectrum of rightness. You're just either right or you're wrong.

    I'm not saying that its worth dying on the calamari hill in public. Handle that debate however you see fit.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Looking through your interactions regarding this seems like there has been some stuff mistaken as sarcasm when it wasn't, they were agreeing with you but the context was lost and so you took offense. It happens. No biggie.

    But the rest of this seems like you're trying really hard to be philosophical and... Well .. it's not working.

    No outside observer is required to prove you wrong when you're arguing facts. And within their conversation...? They were arguing about proven facts. These aren't opinions they were arguing (eg political or religious beliefs).

    My opinion? A simple Google search to confirm his own knowledge (or lack thereof) would have solved this. He gave himself no room to be wrong. He clearly needs to be humbled and recognize that he might just be wrong about something. That is the red flag he needs to work on.

    Your red flag? Your inability to recognize what is ACTUALLY being discussed here and showing your own arrogance about it all disguised as being philosophically and morally superior. There's no empathy required here until he has the ability to humble himself.

    Try to go back through these comments but with a different mindset and a different tone of voice for your internal narrator and you might pick up what we've all been putting down for you.

    Good luck.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    It seems like you don't know the definition of the word truth or you've been taught an inaccurate version of it. They way you write makes me think that you read a lot online and I've noticed in the last five or so years that there seems to be a push by some people (typically with ulterior motives from what I've seen) to dilute the definition of truth to accomodate the propagation of their worldview.

    Image of the definition of the word "truth" from the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language

    The truth of the conversation is that the guy was wrong. Calamari is not caviar = True.

    This idea of adapting the word "true" to conveniently dodge outright wrongness on a topic is a problem. You're using the wrong word if you're saying things like "my truth" or "your truth". It would be more accurate to say "my/your understanding".

    As I mentioned before, the truth is something that exists outside of you. You refer to facts to describe the truth to the best of your ability. No one expects anyone to have a complete understanding about everything. Incomplete knowledge is just fine so long as you accept when others fill in the gaps or correct you.

    Its OK to be wrong. If people accept their own fallibility, they grow with every conversation they have.

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    [–] 43 points 1 year ago

    An ex and I were on a bus trip to a city about an hour away from where we lived while we taught English in Korea. The subject of there being a "subway" in said city came up randomly. She said she thought she had seen one the last time she was there. I had been there more times than she had and said there was no subway. She doubled down. No, she was quite sure she had seen one near the university. I doubled down, I've been there quite a few times. There's no way they have a subway. It's not even big enough for one! It got pretty heated. This went on for some time. Feelings were hurt.

    She was talking about the sandwich restaurant, and I was talking about underground trains. We were both right.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Seen something like this before. Guy was testing his date to see if she would correct him and she would fail if she did.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I remember reading Ron DeSantis (governor of Florida) said he did this on dates. He would say Thigh Food for Thai food. If they corrected him he wouldn't date them again.

    He's married now and I wonder if his wife ever offers to pick up Thigh food for dinner.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    I do love some thigh food. The nectar of the gods.

    I also love how he does the red flag ass version of this. He must be right. Not like playing mental games is ever great, but nothing more nail on the head than a Republican looking for subservience and weak will.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Honestly (if I played stupid games like this, which I do not), I'd be more likely to date them again if they correct me. I want someone who will tell me if I mispronounce a word I've only read, or have a booger, or smell bad, etc. When it happens organically I always appreciate it unless they're a dick about it.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What year is this, why would they continue arguing instead of just taking out a phone and looking it up?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    There have been times in the last, I dunno, 2 decades? with my friends and I have been having a debate or disagreement on something, at which point one of us usually would stop, pull out their phone, and say something like "why are we even arguing, I have the sum of human knowledge in my pocket." It's because we're old and grew up before the Internet was more than DARPA NET or AOL. These kids have no excuse lol

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Reminds me of that 4chan post where anon gets stopped by a stranger who tries to explain that Aluminum is the best metal. Anon tries to stay calm and explain the iron is the best metal, but the guy just kept going off about Aluminum and started talking about rust and ruined Anon's whole day.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The concept of "best metal" without specifying for which purpose is pretty ridiculous, so to me the anon in your story is equally guilty of causing his own bad day.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Well, no.

    The best metal is obviously bismuth:

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    stranger is correct, aluminum is extremely strong and flexible

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If you need to Well, actually… on your first date, all your dates will be firsts!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well actually, any subsequent dates wouldn't be my first ever date /s

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Keep this up and we'll upgrade you to having 0 dates.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    A friend of mine got in a fight with his wife recently about the name of a bar that's long gone.

    He and I had worked in the neighborhood and had been to the bar a dozen times and had been to the other bars probably hundreds of times. He had met his wife years later and had maybe visited the bar a couple of times before it disappeared.

    His brain had played musical chairs with the bar name on the block. She was right. I had a rather strong distaste for this bar and generally refused to go to it, so I remembered it clearly.

    He had intimate details of the lighting, the unusual concrete bar, the music, the seating, the people we had gone there with. But the names were transposed. He had been looking up tax records and property names trying to prove her wrong.

    So first, he got in trouble for not believing her, then he got in trouble for trying to prove her wrong, then he got in trouble again for calling in a lifeline.

    Meat-based data storage is weird AF.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I've been the side guy in a similar date in a bar. But instead of calamari is fish eggs. The dudes deeply held belief was the flat earth lie.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Calamari? You mean like clown fish eggs?

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