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[–] 150 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nearly half of Americans don't understand that when an illegal and immoral tactic is used against someone you don't like, it can then be used against you too. Dumb fucking Americans.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We need to start finding ways to take away the rights of Evangelical Christians. Let them see how it feels for once.

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  • [–] [S] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    These are some depressing numbers.

    47% of U.S. adults disapprove of of deploying the Marines to LA, with 34% approval.

    45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.

    ... An equal share — 45% — also disapprove of the protests against ICE, per Monday YouGov polling.

    36% said they approve of the protests, and 19% said they are not sure.

    58% of Democrats said they approved of the anti-ICE protests, compared to 15% of Republicans.

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  • [–] 123 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    So over half of Americans aren't concerned with accelerating authoritarianism? Great.

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  • [+] 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    There's a meme out there that goes something along the line of "Nothing Ever Happens". This line of thinking is poison, as it doesn't take into account incrementalism. The fall into fascism isn't a single large step, it's many small steps until one day you've realized that you're no longer in the same place that you were, and that now, you're lost.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A lot of Americans barely understand how the government actually functions.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That's a lot of people who saw a reporter get shot and went "I'm cool with that".

    I'm joking. Most of them probably aren't paying enough attention to have seen that.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Most Americans probably haven't even seen the video. The average person is unbelievably clueless. My friends Instagram reels is animated screaming cucumbers and more brain rot. 0 news, 0 information, just straight retardation. Each of our media spheres is individually tailored and that is a massive problem when it comes to getting people on the same page.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That percentage is insanely low. What is wrong with the fuckers that approve?

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Less than the majority is depressing, but don't forget how the media is covering this. MAGA eats this shit up, obviously, but even your standard semi-informed people are getting "riots on the street of LA" bullshit on their local news outlets.

    I'm actually a little surprised it's "almost half" in disapproval, given how badly this is covered. I wonder if TikTok and Bluesky are helping, the latter being obvious but the former being surprisingly good at showing what's actually happening on the ground-- at least a lot better than Meta and X options.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, also even though it's "almost half" there's more people saying disapprove than approve, so there's a large number in the "unsure" category right now, and the more we find out about who's being deported and how and what the cops will do to suppress these protests the more that disapprove number will go up

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago

    NEARLY HALF?

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.

    So 38% are enemies of Constitution and country.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The Authoritarians- a book by Prof. Altmeyer- says there's about 1/3 of the population who are authoritarians and that percentage is pretty constant no matter what one does. SO it sounds about right

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I hadn't heard of that book before. Looking it up, it's a book about the psychology of authoritarianism, backed by research and receipts. I'll add it to the top of my reading list. It also seems to be available for free on the author's website. Thank you for this.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "nearly half" so over 50% of US adults are mentally challenged it seems

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That means a majority approve or don't care. We're fucked

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    Wow, we got ALMOST half of America to understand that it's bad when presidents send the military to threaten Americans.

    That almost makes me think our inevitable decline as a nation will happen slower than I originally thought.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    This country continues to depress me. It really should be way higher.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's going to be interesting to see the reaction on the ones who approve when Trumpflation really gets going because farms can't hire enough workers to pick their fields and work their cattle and poultry mills.

    Good time to plant a victory garden. You're gonna need it.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago

    That's because there are hundreds of millions of racist fascists here.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    There's something that needs to be done, and that something is drastic, and a lot of people don't want to hear, or see it. But we can't keep going forward as a country where more than half of people are violent sociopaths, or enablers of the latter.

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    Between 33% and 38% of Americans shouldn't be allowed to make decisions because they are incompetent or vile. That's how many have never wavered in their support of Trump.

    But I am shocked here at the extra 12+% who aren't outraged by what's happening now. Is that the 11% of Libertarians? (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/08/25/in-search-of-libertarians/)

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    [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    If a majority of Americans approve then the problem will not go away if Trump goes away.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    lol we are cooked

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So more than half are okay with it or don't care about it.

    Nothing has changed since the election.

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  • [–] 78 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    If "nearly half" disprove that means more than half approve.
    That's fucking disgusting.

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  • [–] [S] 57 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    There's always a good percentage that are indifferent or "don't know". But they're no help.

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  • [+] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Per the article:

    47% of U.S. adults disapprove of of deploying the Marines to LA, with 34% approval.

    45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.

    That leaves 19% and 17% that are undecided. The question for those would be are they uninterested or uninformed?

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  • [+] -13 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    This is exactly what happens with democratic societies

    No. This is what happens when you have two sides, both too large to really represent anyone, battling for a sliver of majority using increasingly diverging views and then exercising as much power as they can before the roles flip again.

    In an actual democracy representatives of the people, with many differing views, sit down together and decide case by case on a solution that most can be happy with.

    Someone will always disagree with any decision when we live in a large society, but a functioning democracy is the closest thing we have ever come to making sure that as many as possible are happy (and more importantly get a say).

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately exactly this outcome is the inevitable result of a FPTP voting system combined with political parties. The most stable arrangement of such a system is a two party system, and once it reaches that point the winning party becomes the one willing to take the most extreme position from the other party.

    The only way to fix this is to do away with FPTP and replace it with a proportional voting system that will allow for multiple political parties to be viable and encourage the major parties to seek moderate positions rather than extremes.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Absolutely agree! First past the post will always drift toward larger and less representative parties. Even proportional representation can have this tendency, but it is much more resilient.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So a majority approves. Fuck this country.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    "nearly"..?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    The other half are as dumb as a bag of hammer.

    That’s right. Just one hammer. With measles.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Nearly half eh? Yeah less then half checkes out.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    The other half voted for him.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    To be honest part of me wants his raids to spread to other cities, especially in middle America, so it hits home to more voters. Especially his wavering voters. Some people can only recognize something if they experience it first hand.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    It will spread, but not in the middle of the country. He's allegedly targeted blue cities like New York, Chicago, Seattle next.

    Our new chief of police here in Seattle just said that he expects to be arrested and imprisoned for protecting the city against these raids. Sounds like he might be a keeper. We sure could use it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    A lot of people are only seeing very sensationalized edited media about this and thinks the protests are way worse and more violent than they actually are.

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    It’s ok because it will never happen to me! Huh? These politicians have zero policy agenda and thrive on having an other to rally against? They’ll go after me for the pettiest of things like living while poor to fill their private prison quotas once all the gross gays and browns are reduced to cinder? Nah. This is America. It can’t happen here!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    half of America is dumber than a sack of potatoes

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    More than half of US citizens are fascists? That does not surprise me.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It way more than half. Polling almost always favors fanatics.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    It way more than half.

    How do you know?

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I disapprove of his existence.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That every American doesn't approve of Trump's handling of protests is shameful.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That every American doesn’t approve of Trump’s handling of protests is shameful.

    Quite the contrary. But looking at your post history, I wonder whether you accidentally said the opposite of what you meant.

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