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[–] 9 points 1 month ago

Putler has been threatening this since the start of the war.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Sounds like somebuddy about to find out what Article 5 is for.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I thought Russia was tired of "finding out" and yet here they go "fucking around" again

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    [–] 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Do it. Close both straits and shut down the global economy at the same time. This life sucks and it's getting worse. Just put the economy out of its misery, cheers! We'll rebuild from the ashes.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Russia will bomb US military industrial complex donation centers, Foreign Minister says

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Rubbish. Not while Russian government officials, capitalists and TV propagandists all have real estate, children and Bank accounts in Europe

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Which Russian government officials have any investments in Europe at this point?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Yelena Mizulina comes to mind

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Do you see her as a major driving force in Russian politics that would decide whether there would be strikes on Europe though?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I see her as a major talking head and thus an indicator for ruling class' opinions

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago

    The ruling class isn't homogeneous though. You have people who built their wealth on the relationship with Europe, but now a lot of the ties are largely cut. And trade with the Global South is now replacing it. So, you have a new group of capitalists who are not interested in Europe in the slightest, and even see resumption of trade with Europe as a threat to the niches they occupy. I don't think the actions Russia is currently taking suggest that she represents the capitalists who are in the ascendant right now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    You'd be surprised. Putin's children are raised in Switzerland, and I bet their life is not funded by a hardworking mother.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    I don't know if you've been living in a cave for the past 4 years, but relations between Russia and Europe aren't what they used to be. Also, are you suggesting that rich people in Russia can't live well without needing Europe?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    I've been a Russian living in Europe and I follow the news closely both from European and Russian independent media. The cash flow is complicated, but it exists, and Russian oligarchs/politicians still own property and support their families in Europe, even if they are sanctioned themselves. Also, it's not a reason for Putin not to attack anyone if thar would feed his ego and help to keep his position.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 month ago

    It's pretty clear that the economic gravity in Russia has shifted towards the Global South at this point. So, in terms of political influence, Europe is largely irrelevant now because over the past four years there plenty of new businesses filling the niches left by decoupling from the west. It's in their interest to ensure western competition doesn't come back. And today they have far more influence in politics than a handful of people who still have any financial ties to Europe.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    Russia says a lot of things, but they increasingly fail at projecting power. There are few red lines left.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (10 children)

    Keep talking that macho talk and throwing rocks while living in glass houses.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago* (9 children)

    I mean, sovereign states are seemingly a potential military target, so who would have thought that includes weapons factories.

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    Moldova, Ukraine, The Baltic States, Europe as a whole...

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    "Ukraine gov is totally not a puppet of usa, I'll prove it with some unrelated idiotic comic"

    Libs don't know how proof works

    "Waah my narrative is failing, quick lets do another cia talking point"

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Even if it was, which is obv BS, puppet states are fair game? Asking for a friend.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm confused why they constantly call obviously not sovereign states "sovereign states". They could just call them "states".

    There's two things that bother me:

    1. They lie for no reason.

    2. They kinda imply that only sovereign states should not be attacked.

    I have a hypothesis why they do that, but if I state it now, they will wiggle out like the slimey weasels they are.

    Nah, I'll just state it now: "sovereign" in libspeak means "white" in english. They don't talk english, they talk "white supremacist in worst disguise ever" language.

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