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[–] 2 points 1 month ago*

Translation:
Pen name: Ochinpo Tatsurou
Explanation:

  • Ochinpo, pronounced Ochimpo, contains the honorific "o" prefix followed by an informal word for penis.
  • Tatsurou: male given name, uses the characters 達 (tatsu, accomplish) and 郎 (rou, used at the end of male given names).

Real name: Tatsuno Saori
Explanation:

  • Tatsuno: name of a town, uses characters 辰 (tatsu, dragon from the Chinese zodiac) and 野 (no, field).
  • Saori: female given name, uses characters 沙 (sa, sand) and 織 (ori, weave). Both 砂 and 沙 mean sand and can be pronounced sa (or suna or in a few other ways), but 沙 is typically used in women's names and 砂 is normally used in words.
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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Nothing changed since "komi-san ..." I see

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I actually hate it when names get translated

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Think they are referring to the text box there, which is completely untranslated.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yes, I am referring to the untranslated text box

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    [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Netflix is notoriously bad at this. CR gets a bad rep, but compared to Netflix they're a godsend.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    It's annoying when Netflix or Amazon gets exclusive rights to a show. You either need to wait for fansubs (and you'll only get them for the most popular shows after a wait) or deal with this bullshit.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

    In all seriousness, there might be style guidelines that explicitly say to not translate proper nouns like character names that have literal translations.

    And in most cases this probably makes sense. Frieren is reportedly a bit cringy for people who know German because the series uses on-the-nose German words for basically every character and place. Frieren = freezing, Himmel = heaven, Stark = strong, Fern = far/distant, Heiter = cheerful. There are probably similar examples for Japanese characters in other series, though I can’t think of any at the moment.

    Chainsmoker Cat is an ideal show to bend that rule though. “Thanks for the help, Chainsmoker Cat!” is legit a better line than “Thanks for the help, Yani Neko!”

    It’s like that scene in Coffee and Cigarettes where GZA and RZA from the Wu-tang Clan meet Bill Murray in a cafe and they constantly refer to him by his full name. Never “Bill” or “Mr Murray”, always “Bill Murray”. It’s not always funnier to do that, but sometimes it just is.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I assumed OP was talking about the white rectangle that says "Penname: Ochinpo Tatsuo (Dick Tatsuo) Real Name: (I have no idea how to read that sorry Japanese names are hard)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    There are probably similar examples for Japanese characters in other series

    yeah for example every name in komi san can't communicate is a japanese pun or a play on words that describes the character and they are also better left untranslated

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Most official subs are AI these days. Companies are feeding the show's transcript into the machine and it's spitting out translations for all the different markets. If it's not dialogue, it's not getting translated.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    You have any source at all for that? I'm pretty sure the subs would be way worse if that were actually the case.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    I don't have an exact source, I think last I heard on it was over a year ago, but I bet if you search "Crunchyroll" and "ChatGPT Said" it'll come up. Basically, Crunchyroll was so lazy with the AI translation for an episode that it actually left the ChatGPT Said: in the sub. Idk if Netflix is doing AI as well, they haven't been caught so blatantly, but I'd be surprised if they weren't looking into it since I have heard they've been looking into AI recently.

    Also idk if you're just lucky but holy hell I've seen some dogshit subs recently. Like, fucking up the main character's catchphrase levels of bad. idk how much worse that can get.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    So yes, there was one show where this happened, but IIRC Crunchyroll put a statement out that that was the translator they hired being lazy, not Crunchyroll choosing to use AI subs.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    idk maybe that's what they said to cover their asses but when the CEO is doing interviews with variety and talking about how excited they are by AI and machine translations, I find myself not trusting their statement that it was a one-time thing.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Chainsmoker cat is not a great phrase, it's clumsy and hard to say. Yani Neko is actually her name, why is this a big deal?

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  • [–] [S] 18 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    I am talking about the untranslated text bubble, not the name. I have noticed that sometimes it is translated, and sometimes it isn't.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah, whether or not on-screen text is translated seems like a total crapshoot. Some translators go the extra mile and format the translated text to look like the original, but far too many just ignore it entirely.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Well in this case it's Netflix, so there was never any chance we'd get on-screen text anyways. I don't think their video player can handle displaying on-screen text while also displaying dialogue.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    Lack of money. I'm sure most translators would be happy to do a better job if they were given the time and money necessary to do so.

    Also I'm not certain Crunchyroll's new player can even render the subtitles while also rendering more English text for the name. There was a lot of concern about that when they switched tooling.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Here to step on a landmine and say the dub is good.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Ain't no way they named the cat Yoni Neko

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    low effort so that the blurays sell for more later probably

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    they do get subbed properly, on dubs.

    when you watch it dubbed, flip the sub's from English-cc to just English. most the time the text is translated.

    it's dumb, like really dumb, that they can't just include them on one sub.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Always thought fansubs were the best subs... Are there any teams who translated Chainsmoker cat yet? are there any who at least plan to? it would be useful if there was a DB website purely for anime fansub groups

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