This is sad that we're at this point in history when we have to have the obvious confirmed due to a lack of intelligence in the majority of a first world country.

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[–] 81 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I actually thought that the uniform mockups were AI to make fun of the whole “Department of War” thing. I can’t believe they either completely misunderstood Starship Troopers or (more likely) want to openly pursue a fascist aesthetic.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 month ago

    I actually thought that the uniform mockups were AI to make fun of the whole “Department of War” thing. I can’t believe they either completely misunderstood Starship Troopers or (more likely) want to openly pursue a fascist aesthetic.

    it's both.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I can’t believe they either completely misunderstood Starship Troopers

    To be fair...

    So did Peter Verhoeven.

    He ended up in the same place, but he thinks he inserted sarcasm into the story when he just couldn't see it in what he had removed.

    Like, there was an entire third race in the books, a middle ground between bugs and humans, and the novel starts with a soldier massacring a village of civilians while his only concern was making sure he used all his explosive before returning because they got yelled at if they didn't.

    Right from the very first page it's undeniable that Earth is not the good guys in Heinlens's version. Then it goes to where the movie starts.

    Heinlen just 100% stuck to his characters point of view. They didn't think any of it was evil, so the book doesn't. Idiots think that means Heinlen didn't have an issue with it.

    The book was always a warning written with fellow military officers in mind as the audience.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I never knew this, but just from watching the movie alone I even thought it was pretty obvious the humans were the bad guys.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    In the movie they blatantly are. In the book it's less explicit and you have to apply your own conscience. So a lot of people see it as glorifying fascism.

    Frank Herbert had the same problem with Dune: he meant it as a warning against following charismatic leaders, but because the dangerous charismatic leader is his sympathetic main character, to a lot of people the book seems to glorify it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The marketing also distorted any coherent message of the movie. I remember seeing the previews as a kid and it was just a cinematic spectacle of space marines slaughtering the bugs "oh and btw there are tits in it" type of vibe.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    I enjoyed the book so much and I knew that the author had feelings about this. It wasn't pro war. It was a response to the dropping of the Atomic bomb. It's satire but an idiot can't pick up on it. I loved Zim's character in the book.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    What is it with fascists and uniforms? Especially uniforms like this?

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  • [+] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)
  • Fun fact this is why I wear a Czech military field jacket as my daily jacket. Nobody else is wearing that shit near me and I get to wear the neat patches I've collected most of which are admittedly from Fallout. Also it pisses random stupid people off for reasons of stolen valor, the Czech Republic patch is still there my accent is distinctly hickish, and I purposely avoid any American military or NASA patches I do have. Plus above all else it keeps my pale ass from burning under the Mojave sun while also breathing quite well.

    If anyone knows where to get a non military equivalent of a Czech field jacket from 2010 I'm all ears, ideally it's still be earthen tone just not camo. Also if anyone knows where to get a desert equivalent of Castros hat that'd be far more useful in the more immediate.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Gotta make you wonder how close we are to "Service guarantees citizenship".

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It’s darkly hilarious that nobody involved in that decision appears to have realized that Starship Troopers is, in fact, satire.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    First? I think to qualify for first they have to offer health care and a guaranteed retirement

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    It's mind boggling how bad they are at their job. Or anything, really.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I thought they already had uniforms...which were ripped straight out of Battlestar galactica

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    But he forgot to reiterate that the Earth is a globe! Back to square one…

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago

    Inb4 someone swoops in with ‘but Hugo Boss’: Boss didn't design shit as he wasn't a designer, and his company wasn't in fashion design until years after his death. The SS uniform was designed by two dudes in the SS.

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