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[+] -36 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Surely the law is concerned primarily with intent, and it should be possible to establish beyond reasonable doubt that the accused believed the decoy to be a real Flock camera?

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  • [–] 58 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    That's not how destruction of property works. The charge is based on the value of the property lol.

    I'm more interested to know what's bubbling in the background here. The police department is likely in hot water for wasting so much time and money to do something that likely could be called entrapment in court.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    ACAB, but putting out a decoy camera isn't entrapment. The authoritarian fuckwads who wrote the law defined it a lot more narrowly than that.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    If the cops egged him on to do it and gave him a saw then that would be entrapment. You can’t encourage a crime that wouldn’t have otherwise occured.

    No matter how much we dislike the idea of mass surveillance, ain’t no way anyone in the justice system is going to call destroying a decoy camera entrapment.

    Also fuck cops and flock and axos and anyone else making mass spy gear.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    It might be if they watched him do it to the point that it constituted a felony property damage charge rather than halting him immediately. It's one of those tricky areas that explains why you don't see nuisance stings very frequently.

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    [–] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    This is a local story, and every time they cover it on local TV, I loudly take the defendant's side, so everybody in the room knows who the good guy is.

    The mayor of the city was pissed about this because the city was already debating getting rid of the cameras, and the mayor was against them. When this arrest was announced, she publicly asked who was responsible for this operation, and who authorized the purchase of the false camera. Turns out it was 3-D printed by one of the cops, which turned out to be an important aspect of the case since it didn't have the value to support their predatory case.

    Then the state banned all Flock cameras anyway, so what is this guy really being charged for anyway? All he did was remove a camera that the state was about to make illegal anyway.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago

    I think that's why the mayor was so interested in learning the timeline, to see if the cops deliberately did this after the meeting where they determined not to use flock any more.

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