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[–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

Yeah we beat them when they were them, but now they're us.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Put on a russian, blue hat with red arrow and winni puh too <3

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    [–] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    We had help with the rest of the world.

    Germany didn't get out of the third Reich by themselves (which is what is going on)

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  • [–] [S] 29 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Consider that Germany was in far more dire straits economically, and Hitler's approval was crazy high even towards the end of the war (something like 60 or 70%). So the entire time the opposition was outnumbered.

    In comparison, Trump's approval is around 45%.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Germany didn't want to, at least not a majority. Maybe if Germans would have known where it was going (unwinnable war vs all neighbours at once etc), they would have tried early. US Americans have the advantage of this knowledge.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Look where having the advantage of this knowledge got us.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Maybe knowledge is a bit intense for some.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Unfortunately, that knowledge doesn't just help those who wish to fight against it. Those who seek that kind of authoritarian power also were able to learn what worked and what didn't.

    They then spent decades patiently cultivating the type of society, through extensive social manipulation that has since been exacerbated thanks to expanding technology, to create the perfect environment for them to try again.

    This is all by design of those who hold the levers of industry to further facilitate their concentration of wealth.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    This sounds like the defeatist attitude they want you to have. Just give up, it's hopeless. No one is helping you.

    No, I don't think I will. I think I'll do something. We need more people feeling empowered to take back this country. Not thoughts of hopelessness.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    LOL 'help'
    The Soviets killed 85% of the nazi troops.
    The rest was all other countries combined.
    And they would've been on the Atlantic in no time without trouble if the allies hadn't come in to take a piece of the European loot.
    The nazi's enemy were the communists.
    They didn't fight as much against the west which gave them all the chances to surrender and escape punishment.

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  • [+] 34 points 1 year ago (7 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Maybe it's too pedantic of me but I think we beat them. We failed to fix the corrupted system that spawned them. The inequity and the propaganda, The oligarchs pitting a us against each other. Marginalizing groups as scapegoats.

    We (the US) let those little those freedom checks and balances we were touted in school be destroyed with barely a whimper

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    Eloquent, but also bull#$%. What would you do? Execute every last person in Germany and Japan to make sure you rooted out the fascists? None of the fasscists that were alive then are in charge of what's going on now. The neofacisct groups have nothing to do with WWII other than they decided to celebrate them. This isn't the problem of an organization allowed to thrive and grow, it's an ideal that's being picked up by people and used as a tool.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hold on, I'm trying to find my tiniest violin while I block you.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    You're wrong, they did not fail it was intentionally.

    US/UK made sure plenty of fascists escaped after surrendering to them.
    Kept them in power in all of Europe with a slap on the wrist at most.
    How many nazis where trialed at the Nuremberg virtue signaling trials? 24.
    NATO literally had fascist regimes in it, Spain, Portugal, Greece.
    Even leading NATO/EU and various countries. .

    All of this has been swept under the carpet.

    https://ebeggin.substack.com/p/ratlines-nato-and-the-fourth-reich
    https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2024/01/12/nato-as-seen-from-one-who-grew-up-under-us-sponsored-neofascism-unherd/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_Gs-0dhOo

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    LOL, even the Naz!s knew the problem with that! "(c) that non-Germans shall be prohibited by law from participating financially in or influencing German newspapers, and that the penalty for contravening such a law shall be the suppression of any such newspaper, and the immediate deportation of the non-Germans involved. The publishing of papers which are not conducive to the national welfare must be forbidden."

    Of course, then they then go too far with: "We demand the legal prosecutions of all those tendencies in art and literature which corrupt our national life, and the suppression of cultural even which violate this demand."

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    But the call is coming from inside the house this time.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, the two most prominent examples of fascism in history (Germany and Italy) were only beaten by a combined military power much, much greater than them. Even as they were literally being bombed into rubble and their military situation was beyond hopeless, they never overthrew their fascist leaders.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Yep. And the most prominent fascist power that wasn't overthrown externally (Francoist Spain) lasted 40 years until it's demogogue died. The reason it wasn't a bigger problem for the world at large was that it was a politically isolated minor power.

    The world hasn't yet seen something like an (openly) fascist modern USA.

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    [+] 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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    Down with MAGA!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    More left victory memes for the cause ❤️

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Unionists versus the confederates all over again, history definitely repeats itself

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The USA supported the Nazis in the beginning and were reluctant to intervene. Then we did and took all the credit. It was to weaken Russia. Now the world is a global capitalist hellhole. Chynah is capitalist and Russia is capitalist. You are a subject. You are not free. Freedom is relative and bound by natural law. Unions need leverage. Thank gawd all men die.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    And this time can we forgo the special treatments for "usefuls"?

    Like, for example, the commander of unit 731, who is a mass murderer and mass torturer, but since he had some medical data (which turned out to be worthless anyway) he got a new identity and enjoyed a nice free life

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (10 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "There isn't a genocide happening..."

    Do you mean besides the one in Gaza, where U.S. money and munitions have been facilitating the bombing and starvation of children for over a year?

    My question is rhetorical. If you have a response, I'm not interested in hearing it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    lemmy is full of people that hate fascists. simple as.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Cool they also think everyone they disagree with is a fascist.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    they think that everyone that fits the Definition of fascism, is a fascist

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  • [+] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    But we do, in fact, have enough information to call Trump a fascist (and thus anyone who is a suporter of his). The defintion of fascism, as stated by wikipedia is:

    • far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement.
    • characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition
    • belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race
    • strong regimentation of society and the economy.
    • Opposed to communism, democracy, liberalism, pluralism, and socialism

    Trump has, in the not so distant past:

    • Claimed expanded executive authority
    • refused to transfer power after losing an election
    • has praised authoriterian leaders
    • Frequently made appeals to racial and cultural superiority (e.g., calling certain countries “shitholes,” claiming immigrants are “poisoning the blood” of 'America')
    • Attempted to delegitimize dissent or protest as unpatriotic
    • Just a couple of days ago called the national guard (not sure if that's the correct translation) on anti-deportation protesters
    • Has, and is, sending deported people into de-facto concentration camps
    • Has suggested using the military for domestic policing
    • Has endorsed populist economic nationalism (tariffs, breaking international trade norms, attacking corporations that oppose him)

    And much more, but let's just jump to a conclusion anyways, right? Nazwałbym Pana debilem, ale tak nie wypada, to tego nie zrobę.

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Would we have beat the nazis if they just stayed in Germany?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nope, they sat by and watched as Germany sunk into fascism and began their ethic cleansing and putting people in cattle cars to take to camps, if Germany had never invaded Poland they would've continued to sit by and do fuck all.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    In Spain the fascist stayed in Spain, participation on ww2 was very small and Franco betrayed Hitler as soon as he saw he was going to lose, so there was no reason for the USA to invade Spain and we got 40 years of fascist dictatorship.

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  • Bro leave Pepe out of this ;w;

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That's the spirit 👍

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  • [–] [M] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yo, I know I'm kinda late with this but please provide alt text when you're posting here in the future

    Also this isn't exactly a meme either

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    The Soviets beat them. LOL
    Shows how much you 'socialists' know.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    No country alone beat them. The Soviets did more than the others but it wasn't them alone

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    85 fucking percent.
    You can dislike that all you want, these are facts.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Giving credit to whom it belongs when some fake leftists claim it was the west and in doing so showing they are wrong is a sign that "I don't understand"? LOL

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why are you sickly obsessed with how many died defending their country?
    Are you some americunt jerking off to that?
    Or should they just have let the nazis kill them?
    Fuck off

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The trouble is: the poster misrepresents the situation. The guy wearing the red hat is the one holding the rifle and bayonet this time.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I'm being downvoted for pointing out an obvious discrepancy, one that needs to be recognized and reckoned with?

    In WW2 the full federal might of the United States government and armed forces were aligned against the Axis.

    Which side is the administration on now? Against whom were the National Guard and Marines deployed against this week? Reality check time.

    Does it make you feel better to lash out and rage against people who agree with you, who are on your side and opposed to the bullshit we're all facing? Slipping into a comfy fantasy, where we imagine the "good guys" have the guns and power this time, isn't productive, unless it's motivating you to arm yourself and build solidarity. Do you have your rifle and bayonet? I do. Are you supporting people who are with you, or are you just sitting in your chair screaming at the wrong people on the Internet?

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