It’s unclear how such an action would help lower U.S. borrowing costs.

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[–] 73 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Trump issued his demands Friday in a lengthy social media post after a stronger-than-expected August jobs report, which could bolster the case for Fed officials to raise rates at their next policy meeting starting Sept. 15.

In his post, the president exhorted his hand-picked Fed Chairman Kevin Warsh, whom he called “great,” and board members to “get smart” and “BE PATRIOTS for a change.”

“LOWER THE RATE OR I’LL STOP TRADING WITH COUNTRIES WITH WHICH WE HAVE A DEFICIT,” Trump posted. “High interest rates put the U.S.A. at a very unfair disadvantage, and I won’t allow that to happen!”

Fucking what?

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  • [–] [S] 45 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Well you see diesel gasoline is at a record high price, so you don't want people talking about that.

    But who knows what this is actually a distraction from.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Not everything is just a distraction. Trump has been talking about Tariffs, interest rates and invading Iran since the 90s. He even took out full page ads at one point in the paper regarding some or all of those topics.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I’LL STOP TRADING WITH COUNTRIES WITH WHICH WE HAVE A DEFICIT

    So glad we have so much "freedom" that we have donnie dictating how all of commerce works for the whole country. Meanwhile, the ghoulish cons keep acting like Teh SOSHULIIZZMS is coming for all of your freedoms!

    Also, donnie the dumb dumb is one of those morons that gets triggered by hearing "trade deficit". 🙄

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  • [–] 56 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    What…? Seriously, like… what the actual fuck…? Is he threatening to nuke the economy by executive-ordering a halt to international trade if the fed doesn’t do what he says, which is not only deeply idiotic, but also completely unrelated to how bond rates are set…? Is that what’s actually happening here???

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  • [–] 55 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    If you have to vote by mail this season take steps to ensure you can get your ballot and get it delivered.

    Try to avoid the postal service altogether.

    For example in WA state you can print your ballot at home and deliver it to a ballot drop box.

    Other states have other mechanisms to get votes counted without having to go to a polling place.

    DO NOT TRUST THE USPS.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Reps are going to steal the election anyway. Make necessary peparations.

    Nevertheless: Solid advice.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Reps are going to steal the election

    They are certainly going to try.

    It's every citizens responsibility to do whatever you can to make it as difficult as possible for those attempts to succeed.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Exactly, they can try, but you better believe we all need to fight this out at the ballot box like our lives depend upon it because if we don’t have this fight now the next fight is going to be way more terrible.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    lol

    “If you don’t shoot a hole in this boat I’ll blow it up”

    Okay buddy

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  • [–] 100 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    The jobs report is fake. Why is everyone pretending it isn't?

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    It’s so beyond the pale too. I mean yeah, numbers have been fake for years now, dating back to before covid even.

    But this gigantic estimate, then getting blown out by 3x?! Bruh.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    That is so much Russian talking point crap

    Provide evidence or STFU

    Saying the Fed has always been lying is just trolling to sow distrust.

    We have enough already.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Well not lying, but not what everyone thinks it is.

    One person picks up a side job after getting hours cut at his work? That's a new job created, even if that person makes less than they used to.

    A guy gets laid off but registers with a gig app to try to pick up some driving or delivery tasks with spotty income prospects? That person is not "unemployed".

    You aren't recognized as looking for work despite having no job? You don't count as unemployed either.

    The "underemployed" is probably better to get an idea.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    All true. But done consistently the trend will give you insights into how people are doing.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Sure, but situations evolve that change the meaning.

    15 years ago, being an independent contractor was relatively rare and pretty deliberate. Now that's just being registered with Uber, Lyft, Doordash. So lots of people stop becoming "unemployed" and become "independent contractors" due to what is essentially a cultural shift. Being an "employed" independent contractor is trivial now, but says nothing about income prospects.

    The side job scenario certainly isn't new, so your point is taken there, that number of jobs "created" always could have been either good or bad without context.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    They were fake before? How? I'd argue that they need to use U-6 vs. U-3, but people have been saying that for years. Usually that data is something people could find for themselves, but most of the "liberal media" reports on U-3.

    This administration has shown that no amount of corruption and scheming is beyond them, though, and tiny-d donnie values only loyalty to him, so now the numbers are suspicious.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Lol, this is wild even for trump BS. I'd call his bluff and let his supporters see the emperor has no clothes.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Are threats what trump thinks negotiations are?

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Literally yes. He wrote (correction, had someone write for him) a book about it

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I'm familiar with the book. I love books and I love reading. The two books I will never read are trump's book and hitler's book. I believe trump has only read one of them (or at least had someone explain it to him).

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It’s unclear how such an action would help lower U.S. borrowing costs.

    Spoiler: it won't and everyone knows it. Pretending Trump is some secret genius when he clearly isn't just shows where the LA times loyalties lie.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Do it you fucking pussy. Tired of being threatened with a good time.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Especially since it just feels like imperial collapse blue balls at this point. If he did this I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it collapsed the feds. Like remember how bad shit was during COVID? Now imagine that but worse since trade was at least moving then.

    Unironically just cutting trade with basically everyone has a solid chance of triggering a bi-partisan succession crises.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    WTF? If anything we should be raising them.

    Also, any "jobs report" under this administration is extremely sus.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    “We are all domestic terrorists.”

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    We are all domestic terrorists.

    These dumbasses think it was really funny to try to appropriate that as some ironic label like they did with "deplorables". Except, it was the DHS that pointed the finger right at right wing extremism when it came to domestic terrorism as a threat. Also, Hillary was right to label a certain percentage of the right as deplorable in their views. I think polling shortly after that time proved it, too.

    I think, deep down, these awful people know it, too.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah Hillary was technically correct, but she couldn’t have had worse political instincts in that moment.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Honestly, if the "liberal media" didn't make such a hullabaloo about a big nothing, essentially giving the extremely radical right wing an assist, it would have blown over as just merely being an accurate observation.

    Instead, there is all the usual Murc's Law bullshit at play here: Democrats have to be pure as the driven snow and cannot even state the truth lest it hurt the tender feelings of right wing snowflakes; Republicans, who are expected to be awful, and just cannot help it, get a pass on things like bragging about sexually assaulting women and having it written off as "locker room talk".

    Republicans are allowed to just about say and do anything and get praised as just being straight shooters that speak like everyday people. Heaven forbid a Democrat were to do the same thing...

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Where have I seen this move before? Oh, right

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    The Republicans more or less always hold a gun to the head of something normal people care about, but that cons don't really care all that much about. Most of the time I'm reminded more of Martin Sheen in the end of The Dead Zone when they do this.

    This particular instance is wild even by conservative standards, because just about all they care about is unfettered capitalism. I'd like to see everyone call tiny-d donnie's bluff here and see what happens.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    that will give us zimbabwe levels of inflation. time to cash out your savings and buy wheelbarrows, thats the next red hot commodity to have.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    That's not how this works.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    We will be doing so much winning that you may get tired of all the winning! 🫲🍊🫱

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    For anyone seriously wondering why Canada walked away from the table, this is exhibit A. Our "deal" would have lasted about two weeks, in exchange for permanent concessions.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Didn't vote? You voted for fascism. Congratu-fuckin'-lations, now you'll never have to vote again.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    A US led global economic depression will lower US borrowing costs, and restart Fed QE operations that were needed during Trump's first term. This would help juice the stock market even more, even as employment/housing/financial losses crash hard, and inflation continues. While it would lower tax revenue, and require even more borrowing, more tax cuts for the rich (indexing capital gains to inflation), with huge military spending increases, is "cure for everything" for Republlicans. Increasing global hostility towards US is a tool for media to rally support for the fuhrer.

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