About a week or two ago, I started noticing that I could no longer copy the clean links for search result hits on Google. I thought it was maybe some quirk of a browser I was using, but today when trying to copy a link to a Youtube video, I realized it was actually rolled out globally (it seems).

Basically instead of getting a
https://youtube/. com/watch?v=-ed6UeDp1ek link now through google, (spaced out link to avoid AutoMod) you will get
https://www.google.com/goto?url=CAES<rest-of-encrypted-blob-containing--versionByte-keyID-cipherText>

The article describes the change in technical detail, and mentions a fix, but the author has kept it private for now so Google doesn't patch it up (like they probably will or have for this workaround relying on the "Translate Page" feature with a different Browser Language selection [Twitter Link, Aug 27]).

Why it will probably be patched:

Surprised there's no post about it here already.
Only Hackernews article I could find (4 days ago):
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49506338

Edit: It seems to matter a lot whether your network is deemed "spammy" or problematic by Google for the encrypted URLs to kick in, even if you're logged out. Funnily enough my google searches went back to normal a few hours after I posted this. So a logged out session might get the regular, unencrypted links if your IP network has a good rating on Google's end. Mine often runs into captchas and the like, so it makes sense why I'd be targeted by this new change.
Then again, I just tested on my mobile cellular on a logged out search, and I still have the goto's. Can't really control that.

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[–] 66 points 2 months ago* (8 children)

So google has no problems unleashing their bots on others but they don't want to get scraped themselves?

That's the sort of shit that should get your company disbanded in any functioning civilization.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    That's why everyone should try and avoid google and use some alternatives.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    DuckDuck is literally right here.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    And it'll even sometimes show relevant results!

    Seriously though, noai.ddg is my default, but I still have to switch to google way too often.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I try to use ddg. Their bangs are really convenient though so it's a great reason to keep it as your default. Just add !g somewhere in your search and they'll redirect you to a Google search for the same thing. Or !w for Wikipedia, or, holy shit, 13,564 others. An image lifted from the link in my post containing thirteen of the commonly used bangs. Amazon, IMDB, Steam, Netflix, and many others.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    i haven't had to switch to google in years. when I can't find something it's usually because I am looking for something from over a decade ago that nothing can find. I guess you have to search differently with alternative search engines, and I still have that proficiency.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Just switch. To anything, really.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Qwant user here for almost 2 years. (Previously used swisscow for 1 year)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I must be coming close to ten years of using DuckDuckGo and barely ever even needing the ! g bang. It might not be the galaxy brain option, and I do keep looking around, but the classic UX and the AI controls certainly improve navigating this hellscape.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I got this too a few weeks ago and couldn't find any information on how to convert the address back to normal. I guess it makes sense if most people don't get those results. My fix was to just use a different search engine.

    fyi, I got it while I was logged in.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    an underrated feature in duckduckgo is easily toggling between international search results and local (my country) search results. both are things I want often, but I much more rarely want to select any other country, so it makes sense for the toggle to work the way it does. also noai duckduckgo is a blessing.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    Surprised nobody has mentioned Ecosia yet. Web searches there are responsible for planting 250,000,000 trees. I can’t think of a better justification for using a search engine.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    Just a heads up, Ecosia relies on you clicking on Microsoft and Google provided ads for its revenue.

    From there FAQ:

    Do we plant trees if we don’t click on ads?

    Like other search engines, we make money when people click on the ads shown in our search results. [...]

    How does Ecosia compare to other search engines?

    [...] We provide industry standard search results together with our partners Google and Bing. [...]

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I used Ecosia for a few months last year, but it really struggled with more niche topics and searches in Hungarian. Also it kept re-enabling the AI search every other day, no matter how many times I disabled it. So in the end I switched to noai.duckduckgo.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I love ecosia.

    STOP USING GOOGLE PRODUCT A FFS THEY ARE SHIT.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Looks like they have a browser too. Anyone know if it's chromium?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    You’ve probably not seen it. It only happens when you’re logged out.

    Heh, I haven't seen it because I don't use google.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Log in and your results are still clean links, so this has spread through scraper people and nobody else.

    Nobody else? Screw you, corporate fanboy.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    I wasn't aware of Qwant. It seems to build its own index instead of relying on other providers (great), and has proper backing to be a viable competitor in something so big (the French government seems to endorse it; along with institutional use in EU parliament?).
    I just tested it and unfortunately got a 403 however (FORBIDDEN). Though I was behind an endpoint of a very popular VPN for some testing, that sucks regardless.

    Actually, before I could post this, I tried the search refresh and it worked somehow.
    To test again I switched to another server of the same VPN provider (same selected country) and tried searching. Same error, which didn't go away after doing the refresh. So they might have some sort of spam prevention measure which eases itself automatically, but I feel like it could definitely be implemented better if that's the case.

    Edit: Yep, if you sit on that 403 page for 5-6 minutes without doing anything and then hit the relaunch your search button, things work as intended afterwards.

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    I am not sure how they "clean" it. If you put in a youtube link or amazon, they can easily clean it because they just need to remove everything after the ?

    E.g, https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ becomes https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

    However, by google doing this, you're forced to check the link to see what the redirection even is. By the time you click to share that, you're already tracked.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Just put "Tablet" in your user agent, no Goto

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Glad we have stuff like Startpage and Kagi, which are both better than Google anyways. There's also Qwant, but it's not as good as Kagi or Startpage.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I just tried a test search with Qwant and Startpage. On mobile they returned the exact same results (which were good), which suggests that Startpage is using Qwant there. On desktop though, Startpage was hot garbage. Not a single relevant result on page one, with nearly half being links to Facebook and Instagram. Hard pass on that.

    I tested this on mobile too. Opened a Firefox private browsing window, switched to desktop mode and tried the search term on Startpage again. Same trash results as desktop. It's like they're actively telling desktop users to piss off.

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    I like it so much, and it’s my go-to search tool. Sometimes it struggles to identify official websites, but that only happens in about 1 out of every 100 searches.

    I wish it had image search though.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    URL parameters were a mistake.

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