Research that has analysed thousands of randomly chosen videos from popular pornographic websites found that physical aggression like strangulation, slapping and hair-pulling was present in 35-45% of scenes, depending on the website.

It’s important to be wary of clutching our pearls about porn here – there is no evidence to suggest that watching ethical porn results in an upswing in violent behaviour, but research released last year by the Australian Institute of Criminology does indeed show that more frequent intentional viewing of violent pornography is associated with a “small but statistically significant” increase in violence against women by men after they watched violent porn.

Couple this with the knowledge that one in three Australian children have seen online porn and that the average age of initial consumption of porn is 13 – and we can all feel a desperate kind of sorrow for adolescents navigating this world. Girls thinking this is what boys want, boys thinking that this is what girls want. The confusion, the painful wanting to be wanted, that perennial need to be thought of as cool that comes with teenagehood, all of it is now shadowed by the normalisation of something that is clearly dangerous – as any medical expert will tell you, there is no safe way to lose oxygen to the brain.

...I know from personal experience how hard it is to have the conversation about porn with young children. You look at your sweet prepubescent boy child and think he is definitely the only child on the planet not being exposed too early to things he definitely shouldn’t see. He is. They are. Not talking about it is no longer an option.

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[–] 19 points 2 months ago

Seems like the answer should be more sexual education

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    @arbilp3 no safe way, but htf do you get enjoyment out of choking someone during sex? I'm sure the women/girl isn't enjoying it.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Asphyxiation, when done correctly, can be pleasurable for the receiving party. You get a kind of "high" from it. But there's a technique to it to make sure it's as safe as possible.

    Self-asphyxiation was a trend among schoolkids for a while as one of those "challenges". Got a few kids killed sadly.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I remember how teenaged kids were balancing their chin on the back of a precariously balanced chair whilst performing auto-erotic asphyxiation.

    They had heard what happened to Michael Hutchence and decided they didn’t want to be found like that so found a “safe” way of doing it.

    If they did pass out, the chair would fall over, circulation and respiration would restart and they would regain consciousness.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I've had sexual partners ask me to perform painful or very dominant acts on them. Nothing that would risk serious injury, and anything around the neck is a non-negotiable limit for me (no safe way to strangle), but yeah, people aren't all the same and some people request things things you and I would consider unenjoyable and disturbing.

    Someone mentioned erotic asphyxiation, but since most people aren't just suffocating themselves outside of sex and they're learning this through pornography or word-of-mouth, I suspect it's more about the concepts of control and strength, and of animalistic primal desire. Both giving and receiving, some people find comfort and security in the feeling of someone having control over them.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'm sorry, but this sentence cracks me up:

    found that physical aggression like strangulation, slapping and hair-pulling was present in 35-45% of scenes, depending on the website.

    This sentence means nothing if it varies depending on the website. To show its prolific we'd need to know how frequently it appears across websites. Otherwise a single "bad" website out of millions would still make their statement technically correct.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*
    1. I don't think that's what the statement means. I believe it's saying the sites they surveyed each have between 35 and 45%. A "bad" site would be closer to 45% and a "better" site closer to 35%.

    2. Even if it were talking about a mean (average), it would take far more than a single site out of hundreds, let alone millions, to offset the average that far. The mean of [ 0 , 2 , 0 , 5 , 3 , 12 , 3 , 8 , 10, 4 , 7 , 4 , 5 , 3, 99 ] (one extreme out of fifteen) is only 11, not up in the 30s

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Good catch, the average site has 1-2% featuring slapping, choking, and hair pulling. Roughsex.georg, which features exclusively that content, is an outlier and should not have been included.

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    [–] 19 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    You look at your sweet prepubescent boy child and think he is definitely the only child on the planet not being exposed too early to things he definitely shouldn’t see. He is. They are. Not talking about it is no longer an option.

    This last line here is the most important. But it assumes parents know what the hell they're talking about when it comes to kink, consent and boundaries. Most of the people around my age are just as clueless as teenagers about it.

    There needs to be a total overhaul in how we treat sex in North America. It's way too taboo in most households to inspire any kind of productive discussion.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Most of the people around my age are just as clueless as teenagers about it.

    I was soundly criticized by multiple people on Lemmy for my stance that recording someone having sex without their consent is wrong the other day. There's a dire lack of understanding around consent and boundaries that I thought we had improved on since the 2010s. It's been incredibly disappointing to realize.

    My son's father is the type to allow him access to the internet with very little oversight. It's a Pandora's box that I can't close, but I watch things with him, keep the conversation open, look up the streamers he's interested in so I can guide his understanding of what he's consuming. It takes time and commitment and emotional resilience though. It's hard.

    Choking is so dangerous that I won't even engage in it during sex. And I'm kinky as all hell and a domme to boot.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I was soundly criticized by multiple people on Lemmy for my stance that recording someone having sex without their consent is wrong the other day.

    I think that is likely less about discussion and more about entitlement--people are making a conscious or unconscious choice to ignore consent. And men especially are very defensive about protecting their entitlement in this space if videogames are anything to go by. Sounds like a bad day on lemmy for you, though, sorry about that.

    I absolutely love how you're raising your son.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    I saw that thread, it was a nightmare. People are fucking weird about cheating here and it scares me what they think is justified if a partner cheats.

    But good on you for taking an interest with the kiddo. My parents took no interest in the internet and I saw some stuff way too early with no one but peers my age to talk about it with. I think a few open conversations would have helped immensely.

    To the point, I have choked partners at their request, but I put limits on how hard and how long. I check in constantly. If they want more, they can find someone else. It's a situation where everyone involved needs to be sober, aware and have strong boundaries.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    And good on you for being a responsible sex partner! I forget, I think there was an acronym used often that I don't see as much anymore in the kink world - safe, sane, and something? I should do some searching to find it again. But it was really shorthand for what you said there in the last sentence, everyone sober, aware, and respecting and having strong boundaries.

    Edit: Safe, Sane, and Consensual (SSC) is the phrase I was thinking of - used to be really popular in the kink communities

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    I hadn't heard that one, but I never got too far into the kink community. Where I used to live they were kinda elitist, which goes against the whole spirit of being sexually intrepid in the first place. That's a good thing to pass around, though.

    I'm just a nerd who needs to study up on everything I do, even if it's choking someone for sexual gratification.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Household wants internet contract. Contacts ISP. ISP asks "are there children?", if yes, provide router with parental controls by default (literally just configured with adguard dns server with blocks to porn and other nasty sites). Fully configurable to appease the "this is censorship" crowd. Would also immediatly null phishing and other scam attempts. Why is this so hard.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Because ISPs don’t give a shit unless the government makes them, and the people (corporations) lobbying for child safety laws aren’t doing it for the children.

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