Earlier this year, Meta created a “plan” to reduce some of its teams by as much as 60 percent to make the company “AI native,” Reuters reported today, citing two people familiar with Meta’s internal affairs.

Reuters’ report highlights the challenges organizations face when analyzing the best uses for AI and determining when the technology is a better fit for certain tasks than employees.

Meta confirmed to Reuters that the plan, reportedly codenamed Project OT (short for organization transformation), explored scenarios in which Meta reduced some team headcounts by 60 percent and that the plan called for two rounds of layoffs. Meta wouldn’t confirm which teams Project OT affected.

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[–] 2 points 2 months ago

They moved fast and broke things‽

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    [–] 31 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Move fast and break things

    No, not like that!

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Techbros didn't even invent that shit.

    That and "disruption" was just going into an existing market, flooding it quickly with cheap prices, and the second you squeeze out competition jack up rates.

    It's the same thing Walmart did.

    With AI they offer it cheaper than humans because they're burning investor cash and not making money. Once a company fires staff, their next AI contract switches to per token price instead of monthly unlimited.

    And then suddenly realizing the "rockstars" that kept their job because they were AI experts, were just sitting at their laptop 8 hours straight constantly prompting over and over again. After that they're paying more than they were before AI with a shittier product and completely unpredictable workflow completely reliant on AI usage.

    Hopefully we're reaching the point even c-suite execs figure it out. Once they do it'll pop.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (5 children)

    the only problem I see with that theory is that the employee count reduction might let them go below legal limits requiring more bullshit making it cheaper to pay more for Ai than the people it replaced because you have less regulatory nonsense.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Being below a certain employee count reduces worker protections

    It does not change the cost of the slop (which is currently artificially tiny)

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    do some of those protections not involve expensive machinery (like sawstop saws)?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Wouldn’t something like that be machinery the saw company already owns?

    Does slop not involve expensive machinery?

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  • [–] 62 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    If you still use meta products, you are part of the problem.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You’re saying I can help destroy Facebook by using it?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Yep. Not going to defeat the Nazis by giving them blowjobs.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    70 percent increase of major incidents. Hmm..

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    Because ‘judgement’ is an inherently grounded ability, something LLMs cannot exercise, fundamentally, only mimic or approximate with heuristics. Sorry but obvious is obvious.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    Lmao, isn't that Zuckerberg's motto - Move fast, break things.

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    AKA huge mistakes a human would never make.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    I haven't seen a robot that could perform any task outside of a stumbling yet well edited/curated video setting.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    Awwww they're just like us

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    This proves that they will replace everyone - their only "mistake" that the technology is not there YET.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    And by all indications LLMs will never be there - its speed of progression towards that has already pretty much ground to halt.

    Mind you, you're totally right that they will replace everyone if they can (i.e. if they get their hands on actual AGI), it's just that this tech direction is a dead end and won't get there.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    No, I agree with you. Llms are not for this. And we can be both thankful and disappointed at the sme time about it :). AGI will be abterror to see. Not in a sense of how they will kill us, but in a sense of how fast big corpo will.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    They can’t do AGI tho. They’re nowhere near being capable of even conceptually thinking about AGI.

    They talk like they are to scare their investors into pouring more capital into their furnace, but AGI ain’t happening.

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    [–] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    trajectory of the agentic development over at least the last four months hasn’t really accelerated in the way that we expected.

    Oh color me fucking shocked there, Zuck. You are fucking surprised?

    tl;dr - The agents made wild changes that no one predicted, and they confirmed that essentially it was missing the human side of "Hold on, don't drop that database just to change the schema.

    Now, I know I get hate, I do enjoy vibe coding. Hear me out though, it comes with some fun ups and a looooot of downs. At work they mandate it and my job is now managing 6 claude sessions at once, and I mean managing. "No, don't fucking do that, no don't do that.". Most of my job now is telling Claude to stop doing what it's doing.

    It's absolutely fucking insanity to think that you should let Agents run willy nilly with prod fucking write access. I wouldn't do it with Dev! The shit is that?! It is a non-deterministic system. That means you cannot determine what is going to happen. Who cares if it gets it right 99% of the time? Who cares if the next model is 99.9%? It's not 100%! That means it's a ticking clock until something major fucks up!

    Absolute fucking morons.

    AI is, and I say this as an AI user, a pure 100% hubris machine. It will prop you up left and right, tell you that you have the best ideas, and make you feel almost like your dad didn't leave you on purpose and that he still loves you. It makes you feel like the most specialist person. But you're not. You're a dumb human talking to a machine that was told to make you feel special. Executives lack that self awareness though, they walk around smelling their own farts and surrounding themselves with yes-men. AI to them is just the next natural evolution of the yes man. If you use AI, the number one skill is learning "No, clanker, I am not super smart, this may not be a good idea, you shouldn't recommend that", because guaranteed Meta's AI convinced him. Guaranteed he wakes up everyday and talks with AI, and at some point he said he wished AI could lay off 60% of his fucking company and his AI said "That's a super duper idea Mark, you're so incredibly smart!"

    Thanks for listening to my rant.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I enjoy working towards finding ways of making AI more helpful, and that's part of my job at work. Unfortunately, it feels like I'm constantly at war with everyone over the most effective way to do it. Management is looking to get 3x, 5x, 10x productivity boosts out of it. We've got AI reading the technical docs (which are partly generated by AI), requirements, and acceptance criteria, generating stories, implementing stories, and checking itself.

    And then I'm supposed to review the output to see if the code looks good. Well shit, the code looks good, but I don't really know what the fuck was attempted. Like the documentation is hard reading, and I have to evaluate 13 classes of new code and tests. And every line of it looks like good code. I might as well be reviewing code for my bank — I don't know exactly what it's supposed to be doing or the constraints or business reasons, but the code looks clean and well structured and written to good standards.

    I'm trying to find the language to communicate to folks the right way to think about this. I've landed on this: Code is the most expressive version of telling a computer what to do. When you use natural language, there are necessarily ambiguities about what we are wanting to tell the computer — ambiguities which require interpretation.

    So when you read AI written code, you aren't just reading AI implemented code (which is actually well written for what it is), but that implementation is based on an AI making tens or hundreds of tiny decisions you don't see about what you mean to be done. The code hangs together based on the decisions that were made — decisions that are opaque and unquestioned; questions that undoubtedly would've led to deep thinking and discussion with the team if I knew about them.

    Anyway there's this mindset in business: people are resources. They are means of turning requirements into code at a certain rate. I think this leads to the idea that individual expressions of thought or opinion are not valuable or are in fact even harmful. But these micro-decisions about what intent is and how to express it in code are where the magic happens. And without taking the time to think about those decisions, what am I evaluating code on?

    It looks pretty and it compiles and it does what it set out to do in the story. And then I think you find it elegantly solved the wrong problems while ignoring things that really matter — things that aren't expressed in code.

    Shit. I ranted back rather than just making a little comment but it can be hard not to have an outlet at work to share these ideas because I can't express too much disagreement with leadership lest I be seen as not a team player. Like I want to find ways to leverage AI for the most benefit and the least cost because it's a hard puzzle to solve and I love solving such puzzles, but management comes along with MOAR AI! It doesn't scale that way fuckheads! Now fuck off and let me see if I can bump productivity gains from 20% to maybe get another 5%. It's not sexy but it's real unlike your vibe-coded monstrosity.

    I think I might have gone from rant to Ted Talk.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I think you're spot on though because we're facing the same thing. Our team has realized code is now the easy part, it's everything else that is difficult - and maintaining that code going forward is a separate item as well. Trying to think of metrics for how brittle code is, and defining patterns. One thing I'm still not happy with any of the models is it's architecture over a codebase. All of them are great at patches and bugs, but shit at defining decent patterns, so I find myself writing a lot of scaffolding and designs of how the could should flow, and I have a feeling that's where my jobb is heading. I think that's what you're referring to

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    Who cares if it gets it right 99% of the time? Who cares if the next model is 99.9%? It’s not 100%! That means it’s a ticking clock until something major fucks up!

    This is a really weak argument. Getting right 99.9% of the time is extraordinarily good in many fields, superhuman even. The human brain is also a non-deterministic system. Surgeons make mistakes too, there is no such a thing as a 100% reliable human.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    It made their human workers 70% less efficient. You know the solution to that don't you... MORE AI!

    J/k, and btw this actually seems like a good article to read, acting as a cautionary tale about reliance upon this high unstable technology in its current (HAHA!) state.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Imo AI is already super powerful in the flaky oracle role, maybe even in CS, but agents left to their own devices is not it, not by a long shot.

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