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[–] 26 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I wonder how long until we start seeing hysterics about Linux being taken over by the Chinese.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I swear I've seen such headline for years now.

    China committed to gradually shift from Windows to Linux on government computers. It will certainly take years, assuming it succeeds in the first place.

    But still, good news they're going for it. Hopefully we'll see the year of Linux on Chinese PCs.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I'm a Taiwanese and interacted with a bunch of Linux users from Mainland China on Mastodon. From what I saw, I don't think it's as easy to use Linux in China, mainly due to the Great Firewall. They often need to tweak the mirrors and even tunnel through their VPS overseas.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Not really helpful now that Microsoft makes all the decisions...

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (28 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    China does a lot of things that are good and then counteracts them with bad, like monkey paw wishes. This is just another example

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    Some examples: China produces a huge amount of solar panels that we need for green energy. China is also building and using a ton of coal power plants, more than any other country.

    China is moving away from Microsoft which will lead to decrease in Microsoft power and hopefully lead to a bunch of work on open source projects. China is also comitting genocide on the Uyghurs.

    Etc

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Those latter two examples seem pretty unrelated. I'm no fan of China's government for various reasons, but them moving away from Microsoft seems like a good outcome for everyone.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    More software freedom, less human freedom

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    You're not using consumption adjusted emissions and are therefore accidentally saying nonsense, if you use consumption based emissions, the us is at like double... so uh no, they win there too undeniably.

    Also the trajectory is better too.

    i'm not saying china is great but that's a nonsense point.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    China has more coal power plants than any other country, by a huge margin. 8x more than the US. How is that nonsense?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    For two reasons

    1. They're manufacturing for other countries, hence the indexed emissions I recommended. Consumption adjusted emissions tells a much more fair story, it's easy to be zero emissions if you move all manufacturing to china.
    2. Massive population.

    It's not a valid metric. Per thing consumed china creates way less emissions.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Strange, I don't remember mentioning emissions at all. Pretty sure I was contrasting producing green tech with dirty power plants.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    ...what is the problem with coal plants if not emissions?

    Anyway, my point is that most of those coal plants are essentially doing work for other countries, since other countries are importing their goods. It's misleading to say china's power is dirty when they're doing practically the entire worlds manufacturing. Then there's the population difference, the trajectory of green power, and the fact that there the coal plants are primarily used as toppers.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    So China will counteract its adoption of linux by... Committing a genocide? Something doesn't add up here.

    If you want to criticize China then find something more relevant and credible than CIA propaganda.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Please educate yourself about international affairs before discussing them

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    How would one proceed into such an endeavour, in your opinion? Genuinely curious.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Go read reports from humanitarian organisations like amnesty international etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Amnesty International has a long history of dismissing anti-colonial resistance on the one hand, and whitewashing western-led massacres on the other.

    In 2015, Amnesty published several reports on the 2014 Gaza massacres according to which it condemned the Palestinian resistance while simultaneously under-reporting and under-emphsizing Israeli war crimes. Source 1 Source 2

    Not to mention the organization's hesitancy to condemn Israel's genocide for the longest time possible.

    In 1964, Amnesty disqualified Nelson Mandela as a priaoner of conscience for defending the African National Congress’s use of organized political violence as a necessary and ethical response in the struggle against apartheid. A similar fate happened to whistleblower Julian Assange. Source

    Amnesty has repetitively shown anticommunist tendencies, for instance in its 1981 report which dismissed communists as prisoners of conscience because they wanted to overthrow the capitalist state. (Source: Tobias Kelly, A Divided Conscience, Public Culture 30: 3, 1 September 2018, p. 370).

    Recently, Amnesty justified Trump's illegal meddling in Venezuela under the facade of human rights violations. Source

    It is ironic how competent Amnesty is in documenting human rights violations in noncapitalist and non-Western states, but is simultaneously oblivious and very narrow-scoped in assessing the state of human rights in Western-aligned countries, namely their disastrous reporting of Pinochet's Chile. Read on this topic Jessica Whyte, The Morals of the Market, Chapter 4.

    If an organization is selective and counter intuitive in what it condemns as violence and whatnot, how could it be trusted? Notwithstanding the fact that Amnesty has a history of receiving funding from the United States State Department, the UK Department for International Development, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation, and many other shady governments and think tanks.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Easiest way is to make sure you're surrounded by other people who are smart and knowledgeable but who don't all agree, and try to figure out why it is that they don't agree. Sometimes someone will just be being stupid for a bit, other times there are some pretty interesting details that you can use to appreciate whatever is being discussed in great depth.

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    [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    TIL (from a different part of the internet):


    Windows 10 China Government Edition supports Mandarin Chinese only, region locked.

    • OneDrive / Microsoft Cloud is removed,
    • no Microsoft Store,
    • Minimal or no telemetry to meet government demands,
    • uses Chinese-approved encryption standards (unlike BitLocker),
    • Entra ID / Azure AD Support replaced with local directory services,
    • more localized control over system updates in Win 10 China Govt Ed.

    I wonder if China asked to compile it themselves.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Kudos to them for removing Microsoft Store. Absolutely hate Microsoft for obvious other things but them forcing their built-in stuff by only being available from store is BS. More of a problem in Win11 than Win10 but I hate Micro$oft nonetheless.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    The other day I had to play a 4k video on a factory-reset Windows10 laptop, and upon loading the video with Windows' new default Media Player, I got shown a missing codec popup, which led to a PAID codec download page of Microsoft Store for HEVC/H.265 (which cost about €1, dunno if price changes by region).

    It was bewildering. Of course I downloaded VLC immediately and everything was great there, but the whole store just feels like a scam to me.
    I tried to gather more information on this and even more bewilderingly, I came across this subreddit and this post...
    https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxsucks101/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxsucks101/comments/1u89lmu/windows_users_can_still_get_or_use_hevc_h265/

    it's quite a read if anyone's interested.

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