Yeah from the perspective of the US it feels like I fell into a sewage pit and started yelling for help until a bunch of people saw me from the rim... at which point they start clapping and cheering and charge down the hill as fast they can to join me like they are chasing a cheese wheel.

It is horrifying madness.

TLDR: Because neoliberals are leading us into oblivion. The current state of politics in Europe is completely dysfunctional. Just as Trump is a symptom of economic and political collapse, so this this.

Like are you for or against Europe joining sanctions against Iran? Are you for or against Europe enacting sanctions against Israel and the USA? Find one of the established parties that is on the right side of these things.

Say what you want but I think "Le Pen has pledged to take France out of NATO and the US sphere of influence" is wildly popular. You say Le Pen is insane and people voting for it is insane, but the alternative parties and media you consume are insane as well. People are increasingly in a dream world and blaming Russia or China for all our own failings (including far right parties).

Just to be clear I do not support Le Pen's racist and Islamophobic rhetoric one bit and do not intent so vote for any far right party. But there isn't a single sane electable mass party right now in Europe that hasn't continued to support the US and Israel in their genocide and imperialism. I think only Spain's Pedro Sánchez Pérez-Castejón and suddenly found himself in lots of "scandals", but I have to read up on that.

Europe is chaining itself to the collapsing US empire. None of them spoke out against the attacks on Iran or Venezuela. They are cowards not leaders and will bring Europe to ruin. I strongly dislike the far right politics - but the cause of that is neoliberal politics so I hate them more.

It's INEVITABLE these parties will come to power. INEVITABLE! Why? Because people simple do not like more and more immigrants, refugees or otherwise foreigners in their countries. They simply don't. There could be like a billion refugees until 2050. This is some basic animal instinct shit that you can't argue away. And by painting ANY sensible policy against immigration as fascist they actually strengthened the actual fascists like Le Pen or AFD in Germany or Örebro in Sweden.

And because our economic future is bleak and the neoliberals have captured all mainstream parties and believe in NOTHING. They know nothing but do more neoliberalism.

And not everyone is so crazy about confronting Russia and escalating to WWIII. Why would any halfway selfish person in Europe want to ruin their own country over Ukraine? Fuck NATO.

So what's left? Either hard right or hard left.

And the democratic socialist parties almost face MORE resistance and smears against them in the media.

Propaganda.

Letting Tiktok, Meta and X do their thing equals letting chinese and and nazi state media broadcast directly 30 years ago.

They are looking at the right wing through the prism of rw oligarch controlled media. It's like they are getting their news from the palantir (seeing stones,) with sauron on another stone mind fucking their dumbasses.

marine lepenne is funded by putin, and he has the propaganda to help her, which is effective amongst conservatives.

Right wing morons WANT fascism because they think the pain is only for people that seem different than themselves. That kind of hate doesn't follow logic.

well, when after a long boring day at work, or at home cause unemployed/selfemployed or retired, you watch TV/news/sn and see that foreigners get everything for free, without even working, and bitching about La France, yes thoose ones who are always causing problems and making violences against beautiful french people, allied with leftists, and ecologists that want to take our liberty with their standards and regulations, after few months of hearing this speech you begin to integrate it.

disclaimer : yes it was sacarsm.

problem : many people have the same speech, and it is so similar that it becomes obvious they did not think about it from themselves, it is propaganda digested and spat. Billionnaires bought medias, and thoose media are normalizing hate speech since almost a decade now.

Apologies for bad wording, I'm a bit angry cause this lobotomy is reaching people closer and closer. Even people I thought had a brain are now braindead, please be careful guys and don't pause your critical thinking when consuming news.

Some hope : thoose surveys are shit.

They tend not to think.

Internet and billionare-owned media have helped with this greatly.

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She was found guilty of embezzlement of public funds, one of the worse crime for a politician. She was condemned to ineligiblity to run for office but she filled an appeal.

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/31/g-s1-57262/france-marine-le-pen-embezzlement-verdict

She was found guilt which if I remember correctly prevented her from running in the municipal elections (which she wasn't planning to run for anyways) but she can still run for president. she also has to wear an electronic bracelet to track her, she said she would not run for president with it and has tried to appeal the decision, if the court finds she has to wear it, Jordan Bardella the new president of her party (RN) will most likely run in her place

Ironically this is what has been exasperating me about Canada lately (as someone from US), unlike the US and Europe, Canada saw Trump get elected and then actually did wake the fuck up and they turned around and elected Carney instead of Polievre.... but now it doesn't really feel like maybe much of Canada understands that they just pulled the handbrake and powerslided narrowly out of a catastrophe... and Carney isn't in any sense an alternative or a solution, but rather a plug shoved into the dam.

I say the above statements with the caveat that I know that many Canadians know this, I just see Carney getting contextualized as if he really was what Canada needed or wanted in the moment, he was the best alternative! Remember that!!!! Don't let the media turn him into a hero if he doesn't actually back up his bold speeches with bold progressive actions.

The really dangerous thing in my opinion here is when centrist status quo managers begin to lose a belief that if they screw over the average person enough they will turn on not just the people shittier than them (conservatives spouting violent and racist rhetoric), but them too. This is the opening all extremist, rightwing and violent movements exploit.

Ultimately this is a story as old as time right? The wealthy elite jam up systematic change and squeeze the structures that sustain them until one awful day a breaking point is reached and people decide they want everything to burn damn it all, at which point the wealthy elite point at the coming wall of fire and say incredulously "Why!!? This burns down the homes of the poor people and good elites too!!? That is irrational!" right before they are swallowed in the firestorm.

The kinds of people like Carney and Biden sleepwalked us up to this brink of collapse in fascism, which doesn't make them worse than fascists, it just makes them the necessary precursor to fascism, like how you have to dig a hole to plant a tree...

There are only two choices, embrace bold, hopeful policies and visions that address the suffering in people that causes that desire to burn everything down, or wait until your society becomes so brittle and weak that it shatters into violence and chaos. There is no "Third Way".

Swizerland

I don't think that's news here. Before Trump became relevant we've had Christoph Blocher already, who is pretty Trump-like (right wing populist using racist anti-immigration rhetoric).

Luckily we don't have a presidential system, nor one with a prime minister, so the highest he could and did reach was just being part of the seven person executive council.

That council is elected by parliament, which did not confirm him for a second term. He was in it from 2004-2007 (our executive council terms align with calendar years).

PS: It's Switzerland, with a t

1764 people answer the poll, when the number of registered voters in France is just shy of 50 millions

That in itself doesn't invalidate the poll. There are standard statistical methods for figuring out how many people you need to ask to get a representative sample and it can be a lot less than one might imagine. But whether people were really chosen in an unbiased way is another question. A good survey will publish its methodology.

Not as much as from Macron

She is a woman though, so she can't really be in JD Vance's Boy's Only Club.

putin gave marine 9mil for her party one time, im betting its likely increased, plus musk is also putting the effort.

People in the left, for some reason, tend to forget the fact that while they don’t vote because no left-wing party is good enough

Where is your evidence of this?

Far better if these scumbags end up dead while doing erotic asphyxiation and having a giant dildo on their asses, all recorded and live steam.

You fool, martyring these incompetent rightwing fascists is the only thing that could allow the far right to craft a true hero.

They need you to play the part, so then they can step in and convince everyone else to stomp you brutally down with the boot.

None of the leaders of the far right parties can govern.. ANYWHERE ON EARTH, which doesn't mean that far right parties aren't wielding immense power all over the world but NONE of their leaders are competent at it, and the way forward to fighting that is turning a mirror on the leaders of these parties not as a way to distract from the evil of the far right parties backing them but rather to make the point that every far right leader is the same hateful idiot with the same failed plan.

Fascism is the height of incompetence but nothing hides incompetence better than violence.

If it’s Melenchon then things will be unpredictable as it’ll come down to who the centrists vote for - and there are plenty on the right who would never vote for Melenchon. However if shes against a centrist, then she’s more likely to lose even if they’re deeply unpopular now, because they’re the easier “anyone but Le Pen”.

Where is the evidence of this? This assumption proved catastrophic in US elections, Biden was an awful choice to run against Trump and so was Harris.