โฒ 23 โผ Help ID this fruit fly. Looks like pumpkin fruitfly but the pattern on the rear is different (sh.itjust.works) submitted 2 months ago by sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works to c/askbiologists@lemmy.world 8 comments fedilink hide all child comments I have many pictures of two specimen (presumably a male and female) The one with bent wing has this appendix which I think uses to penetrate my luffa fruit skin and lay its eggs or maybe that's the male's organ Location: Indonesia
[โ] thenextguy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children) Pretty sure that's a wasp. https://baliwildlife.com/photo-species/36546/ Edit: yeah, I'm wrong. permalink fedilink source hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago* (2 children) I think the little vestigial wings mean it's a fly, right? Wasps should have another functional pair of wings instead. Sometimes it's hard to tell but I only see 2 here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] MML@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yes, they are called halteres, just learned this today. Closest I could find was Dacus longicornis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 months ago* That's actually a very good guess comparing this: https://idtools.org/bactrocera/images/thumbnails/LLplate_Dacus_longicornis_variation.jpg with this: https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/3ac57fca-a801-48ce-94a5-7d7e369c860b.jpeg The colors in my picture are more yellow but that's it as far as I can see. Also the fact its a luffa pest checks out. Any reason why you think they are not the same? permalink fedilink source parent [โ] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works [S] 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child) To me they look very different: The wasp in your picture has a very thin and long waist. in my picture its shorter and thicker. wasp's waist is thinner toward the thorax and wider toward abdomen, mine is opposite pattern on the abdomen doesn't match. this insect lay eggs in my luffa plant that grow into maggots, wasps don't have maggots in their life cycle. There is already a fruitfly species that is very similar to my photos called pumpkin fruitfly but it's not an exact match permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] thenextguy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago Flies have very distinct eyes. I don't see those here. Mine was more of an example than an exact match. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago* (2 children) I think the little vestigial wings mean it's a fly, right? Wasps should have another functional pair of wings instead. Sometimes it's hard to tell but I only see 2 here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] MML@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yes, they are called halteres, just learned this today. Closest I could find was Dacus longicornis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 months ago* That's actually a very good guess comparing this: https://idtools.org/bactrocera/images/thumbnails/LLplate_Dacus_longicornis_variation.jpg with this: https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/3ac57fca-a801-48ce-94a5-7d7e369c860b.jpeg The colors in my picture are more yellow but that's it as far as I can see. Also the fact its a luffa pest checks out. Any reason why you think they are not the same? permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] MML@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) Yes, they are called halteres, just learned this today. Closest I could find was Dacus longicornis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 months ago* That's actually a very good guess comparing this: https://idtools.org/bactrocera/images/thumbnails/LLplate_Dacus_longicornis_variation.jpg with this: https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/3ac57fca-a801-48ce-94a5-7d7e369c860b.jpeg The colors in my picture are more yellow but that's it as far as I can see. Also the fact its a luffa pest checks out. Any reason why you think they are not the same? permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 months ago* That's actually a very good guess comparing this: https://idtools.org/bactrocera/images/thumbnails/LLplate_Dacus_longicornis_variation.jpg with this: https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/3ac57fca-a801-48ce-94a5-7d7e369c860b.jpeg The colors in my picture are more yellow but that's it as far as I can see. Also the fact its a luffa pest checks out. Any reason why you think they are not the same? permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works [S] 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child) To me they look very different: The wasp in your picture has a very thin and long waist. in my picture its shorter and thicker. wasp's waist is thinner toward the thorax and wider toward abdomen, mine is opposite pattern on the abdomen doesn't match. this insect lay eggs in my luffa plant that grow into maggots, wasps don't have maggots in their life cycle. There is already a fruitfly species that is very similar to my photos called pumpkin fruitfly but it's not an exact match permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] thenextguy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago Flies have very distinct eyes. I don't see those here. Mine was more of an example than an exact match. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] thenextguy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago Flies have very distinct eyes. I don't see those here. Mine was more of an example than an exact match. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Melon Fly? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactrocera_cucurbitae permalink fedilink source hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 months ago very similar but it doesn't have the elongated thin waist permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works [S] 1 point 2 months ago very similar but it doesn't have the elongated thin waist permalink fedilink source parent
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