JPMorgan Chase employees believe their work-life balance and health and well-being declined following the bank’s decision to return to office full-time in March, Barron’s reports. Based on an internal survey released this week of 90% of the workforce, the aforementioned areas scored lowest, alongside opportunities for internal mobility.

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[–] 89 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

My company did a forced RTO. Moral dropped. In one category, it dropped to 14%. We couldn’t hire anyone and people were quitting. Our president kept saying “We will never return to WFH.”

Less than 6 months after he said that, we went fully remote. The whole RTO thing lasted about a year before they gave up.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    What is it about CEOs that makes this the ego power trip issue for them?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Tax breaks for having asses in seats at certain geographic locations.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Actually, I work in commercial real estate.

    It’s not uncommon for there to be triggers on these loans that go into effect when a tenant vacates a property, even if they are still paying rent.

    They direct control of their rents and they have to pay a monthly fee for management.

    I can promise you, the only reason we returned to remote is luck. Our lease happened to be up at the same time our moral dropped.

    Still, many of our employees cheered and celebrated the announcement. Take the wins where you can.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sorry for the ignorance, but why would a lender care about the occupancy of a building?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    No worries! Ask as many questions as you like!

    It affects the value of the surrounding spaces.

    Example: A strip mall has a grocery store. If the grocery is active on the property, the surrounding spaces are more valuable to rent. The landlord can rent the spaces to restaurants retail stores because the grocery store has a lot of foot traffic.

    If the grocery store “goes dark” or stops operating at the strip mall, the neighboring Chipotles and Game Stops lose money and close. The landlord can’t fill those spaces as easily as when the grocery store was there.

    If the spaces are empty, no rent comes in. No rent means no mortgage payments.

    Edit: I forgot to add. Commercial mortgages are different than residential for lots of reasons but a big one is the dollar amount. Some of these properties are $100M loans so the trusts and banks involved have a lot more say as to what goes on at the property.

    If you want to fix your sink, you do it. If they want to, they have to get permission to make changes.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The best half cocked reason I've heard from my own employer, is optics when clients are visiting and tours and shit. It's not a good reason, but it was the only reason I've heard with any explanation.

    There are plenty of people that I know that like going to the office and others that like hybrid. I am hybrid 3 days at home, and I'm okay with that, and if I want to, I'll just say I'm not coming in, and nobody asks questions. The point is, if you need asses in seats, find the people in the company that want to, and work within those bounds, or incentives fringe people if you need more. If my company required RTO, I'd immediately update my resume and start shopping around.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I wish this was more prolific. It seems half the people I know who get forced into RTO...the company suffers but it is never RTO's fault.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    Aye. It's always ok to simply go "shit, we were wrong, let's do this different this time" because we're all humans. It's when you refuse to even consider something a failure and then everyone has to show up and step in that pile of shit every day... Great for morale.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    The only problem with this tactic as an unstructured layoff is that the first people to walk out the door are the people who can easily get jobs else where. You lose your best talent and retain the people who are less likely to find a new job

    Execs dont really care tho. Each person is a number and skill sets dont matter

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    thats called constructive dismissal, basically pressuring people to resign, by creating a toxic work environment. it was all people could talk about in the "work" subs '23-'24

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So they want to make their employees sick and have proof but continue anyway?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well, 90% isn’t very statistically significant.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Your sentiment is on the right direction, but statistical significance and effect intensity are only indirectly related and one does really not imply much about the other.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The RTO mandate is being made by management - people with usually 15+ years experience or more.

    They’ve only known office life. It’s the security blanket.

    The people most affected are these RTO mandates are people who have only known hybrid or WFH, people with <6 years work experience.

    This is a culture clash. Mgmt can’t manage without seeing people actually working.

    Numerous studies have shown no significant productivity improvement by working in the office.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Honestly my morale would go down if I had to go to JP Morgan's offices.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    That's the point. Workers with morale get self-respect, and then they start thinking of themselves as deserving a life. Gotta crush that down if you want to exploit them to the max.

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