You’ve never bought a tomato in a grocery store half as flavorful as the Cherokee purples I grow.
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I don't grow tomatoes, but am related to people who do.
It ain't about saving money, they just taste way better.
$2.17 pfft.
Pack of 50 good tomato seeds: $3.50. Bag of manure: $10. String for tying up the plants: $2. Sticks to tie them up to: found in the yard. Water: no idea. Plant 30 seeds, get 20 plants big enough to transplant. Grow a pithy 5lbs of tomatoes from each plant in your first year because you don't know what you're doing. 100lbs tomatoes, would be $5/lb at the store (and don't taste as good), $500 - $15.50 = $485 savings, less water costs.
Same set up in the next year, less seed costs (you kept yours right?), $50 in steel pipe to trellis the tomatoes to, few hours of YouTube University, and look at that, twice the yield. Now you have to buy some ball jars and a pressure canner ($100). $1000 - $162 = Still $838 ahead. And you now have fresh jarred tomatoes for the whole year.
Yeah, this person has obviously never grown tomatoes. Most people end up with so many they give them to anyone who will take them.
It's also super easy to rig up an auto watering system. I'm about to implement one on our lemon tree that keeps almost dying (I don't neglect it; I'm the one who saves it), using a soil moisture probe and a solenoid valve. It's like $40 in parts, including tubing.
I can easily clear 20 or 30 pounds per plant depending on the variety without trying too hard.
Why pressure can tomatoes?
Botulism.
And I don't have enough space in my freezer for as many jars of sauce I make every year. I need them to be shelf stable, and that requires canning, and pressure canning is faster and more consistent than deep water bath canning.
Okay, thanks. I'm not trying to tell you what to do of course, I was just curious about the choice to pressure over water bath.
The hold time is faster at pressure for sure, but I wish pressure canning was faster than water bath over all! I think my limitation is my glass top stove. The canner I have specifies it can be used on glass top but it takes forever to get to pressure. Water bath canning gets done outdoors with a large propane burner and that gets rolling fast lol.
Outdoor propane burner ftw! That was my go to before I had to get a new stovetop. My newer induction top gets the pressure canner up to temp pretty quick, so it's the best option for me now.
Could also be canning above 1000 ft (305m) in elevation. I have to pressure can everything where I'm at since water boils around 195F/90C.
Most low acid stuff should be pressure canned anyways due to botulism. Tomatoes are almost acidic enough.
You're assuming a lot by asserting the average backyard gardener has the space and time to grow 20 plants, and averages 5 lbs yield from each one...
I simply do not trust people who think the appeal or value of gardening is saving money or that local tomatoes are no different than mass shipped grocery store tomatoes.
I grow cayenne peppers to save money. One plant yields so many peppers that it's legitimately profitable.
I do save money growing mint over buying it at the store, because mint is eternal. I've been making juleps and jelly out of the same mint plant for about 6 years now. But mostly I keep mint around because I like it.
Tomatoes? It's not really about the money, it's that grocery store tomatoes are designed for durability rather than flavor.
I've grown cayenne for the first time this year. I've got so many! It's only in a 15l pot.
I picked my first peach from our first peach tree and the aroma was glorious. The taste of it was between giving up everything I own for a second one and meeting my wife for the first time.
Nothing beats growing your own food. Plus the little tomatoes, although I'm allergic, taste like berries.
I grow enough tomatoes for our family of five for the year. Tomatoes,sauce, salsa, tomato paste...we do it all.
Only in the first year. Be patient and stubborn and after a few years you will have learned enough about the needs of your plants to grow veggies more reliably and consistently.
I still buy the 'cheap crops' - potatoes, carrots and onions because I'm still not growing enough of these. Everything else, including fresh aromatic herbs every day, comes out of my garden - at the moment it's plenty of tomato and aubergine, cucumbers, courgette and green beans.
I didn't do it to save money. In fact growing my own tomatoes and chili's cost more that it saved.
I grew chili's inside a greenhouse with growlights and outside to test the difference. Inside the greenhouse was over 30C every day and they had 10h of light per day while outside was much more variable and lower on average.
The ones from the greenhouse were so spicy that I could barely eat them.
It was a fun project and I'll definitely do it again.
Checkout Aerogarden and their knockoffs. So idiot proof and self-contained.
I have a brown thumb and these things make me look like an expert.
It's also how you avoid explosive diarrhea from Trump's dysfunctional FDA testing.
It's the journey more than the destination. But stick with the journey long enough and you'll find yourself at some exceedingly tasty waystations.
I think part of the trick is more just growing what already grows well in your area. I have a cherry tomato plant that I didn’t buy seeds for—I just tossed a few old tomatoes in the garden and it popped up subsisting off excess water from the lawn sprinklers. These last couple of months I’ve been able to step out every morning and pick a few to go with my breakfast. I haven’t had to spray for bugs because the local lizards keep them clear. I think more passive gardens like that might be the way to go.
This is why I started using seed mixes. I throw a mix of different seeds on my garden beds. I get a diverse and more resilient plant community and can learn how to use the new climate change seasons to the best of my abilities. This is also the only way I manage growing carrots and beetroot that never wanted to grow when seeded separately.
Usual mixes contain carrot, beetroot, dill, coriander, parsley, turnip, radish, linseed, sunflower, maize, cherry tomato. Plants like non-cherry-tomato and cabbages I tend to plant when somewhat grown.
Disclaimer: can be problematic with some plants that want very specific seed depths, so use at your own discretion.
Wish I thought of that. What survives is what I will grow next year is a decent way of finding out what grows well. I did plant a mix of things in different spots though.
So far best vegetable crop is rhubarb. Nothing else even really compares which is a bit annoying because I do want to grow more than just rhubarb. But at least it is a start I suppose.
May look into more fruit, usually I forage for plums, apples and blackberries which are incredibly abundant. So growing it in my limited space feels a bit like a waste of the space I have.
Kale would be nice but kept getting eaten. Maybe I need to get nets for it, don't really like plastic everywhere though.
This is one of those where the act is more than the physical result.
Gardening keeps you outside, active, and in our day and age away from your screens.
Indeed in the US environment it also means you know the providence of your food and my guess is that your tomatoes don't grow up near a feedlot ending up with salmonella spillover and more.
And beyond that it allows you to stretch those inflating dollars and get more nutritious food than the ultra processed grocery cheap food provides.
Big grocery propaganda lol
5 Roma tomato plants and you got salsa for the year
Grow what is suited to your environment and season then you won't have to do much while providing way more than you can use. Grow something not ideal then yeah it'll be a perpetual uphill battle.
Rhubarb is over £10/kg. In a single year rhubarb plant should be able to produce a few kg of rhubarb.
At least that is what the internet tells me, I only got it a few months ago so the yield so far is zero. Oh and it keeps growing year after year and I plan to multiply it to grow even more. Tough I might buy a few more rather than go with just 1 so its a bit faster to get a decent sized patch of then. I also plan to make rhubarb wine and mead. Which is worth even more.
Herbs are worth quite a bit too, grow them to make my own herb salt mix for roast potatoes.
I've got rhubarbs in the garden, been there as long as I can remember, in the same spot even. Still consistently getting rhubarbs every year, more than I can eat.
Rhubarb based alcoholic beverages tend to be a bit too dry for me personally, but you do you. I know a bunch of people like them.
Have you seen how much tomatoes cost these days? On a good year I can get hundreds of dollars worth from 6 or 7 plants. Most of that gets turned into hundreds of dollars worth of frozen sauce.
Growing your own food is like printing money but you need to know a little bit about gardening. It's a journey, adventure and philosophy. If you are working hard at it you are doing it wrong. Read Ruth Stout's and Masanobu Fukuoka's books. They make it a lot easier.
I wouldn't hardly eat vegetables or fruit if I had to eat store produce. Tomatoes and peaches from the store are atrocious.
I don't plow, till or weed much. My garden produces way more than we can use so I try to give friends, family and needy people the excess - don't get me started on the excess cucumbers and zucchinis.
For today sure. What it mainly means is that next time the world does a thing you can definitely still have tomatoes.
Remember when covid started and suddenly the shelves were empty and people who didn't understand the importance of masks were fighting eachother over the last tin of beans?
That wont be you. You'll be chilling in your vegetable patch.
I'm allergic. But it's such a good fruit to grow and eat. Specially the tiny grape tomatoes.
Sure, if you buy tomato plants at steep prices, plant them in golden pots and install drip systems for each one separately...
Don't believe the advertisement hypes. Tomatoes are one of the easiest crops to grow!
You can grow them in containers if you don't have a garden. I've even seen them grow wildly in an abandoned closed off shop sprouting from cracks in the floor.
If you grow tomatoes once they'll probably show up year after year from fallen tomatoes. They'll become your new garden weeds that give even mint some firm competition.
Throw some tomatoes in your garden today and you'll be eating nothing but tomatoes next year.
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