UK - local authorities are busy un-declaring climate emergency, nationally they are blaming the wildfires on re-wilding done by lefties and anyway, they say, it is no worse than the summer of '76.
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France. They blame ecologists and scientific for not having been "convincing enough" about climate crisis.
I had a lady at a coffee shop tell me about how the California fires are created by nuclear powered space lasers the US sold to China that they're now using for climate terrorism against the US.
She also told me that her grandma had Obama's birth certificate.
People are... interesting.
one my crazier sisters told me its because 'they' took all the water out of lake eerie to send to california, and thats why we got so much snow this year. She said it like 8 times in the 4 days I hung out with her. 40 years old and brain rotted..
For example: Vlaams Belang (far-right in Belgium) is all indignant about how the country supposedly spent too much on climate mitigation (something they have always fought) and not enough on climate adaptation.
See for example this piece on their website about the forest fires, titled: "forget about the climate church, start investing in climate adaptation".
Over here in germany i also had some news channel or radio or something say something regarding this.
It was said that the statement - that we did too less in adaption and should have saved ressources for that by investing less in climate mitigation - is utter bullshit and we should have invested more in both and that this new discussion is stupid.
Wanted to point that out since it seems like our right wing idiots have the same talking points as yours.
Almost feels like this entire discussion is another one of those big right wing investor/media mogul type of discussion thats being forced onto society by right wing media shills.
What is βclimate churchβ?
They're back to only talking about migrants.
Shout out to the farmers protesting for cheaper diesel when we had a green gov 2-3 years ago and now crying for subsidies because the dryness is killing their crops. Some real smart salt of the earth
In Australia they blame the left and arsonists. The left because they protest clearing the earth of all trees.
Depending the level of crazyness.
It goes from: the government doesn't let farmers do prevention (it's fake, they are not only not disallowed to do prevention, they are obligated to do it and neglect to that responsibility), to the government secret laser drones are making fires to make room for evil solar farms.
Hungary - they're blaming it on the hail prevention system. According to them that's the cause for the low rainfall.
You guys have a hail prevention system?
Yes, it's a silver-iodine based thing, it prevents ice from forming in too big chunks.
I'm originally from Serbia though, they have a bit more primitive system, they fire up some very loud "fireworks", the pressure waves are powerfull enough to pulverize the larger chunks into smaller ones.
Sounds like a stupid thing to mess with? If only because you open up speculations like this?
Ah yes, let's just give in to the far right conspiracy theory...
~80% of both countries' land is used for agriculture. Hail was the biggest cause of crop loss for decades, the systems in place are warranted. Also these are not the only countries to have hail prevention systems, almost all European countries have their own different or similar systems. Also these are not in use when there are no storm clouds or no hail is forecasted (we barely had any precipitation at all this year). The only thing that's fueling speculations like this is pure ignorance....
Never heard of this practice. But it seems to be a thing yes.
Turns out it was Vonnegut again.
The scientific attempts to mitigate or suppress hailfalls began in the 1950s, a few years after Schaefer (1946) and Vonnegut (1947) discovered the means to increase the ice crystal concentration in clouds by using dry ice or silver iodide (AgI) particles, and consequently to interfere with the natural precipitation processes.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0169809515003774
They deliberately misunderstand "human caused" to mean arson. Then try to whip up anger against the "arsonists".
Human caused is literally anything other than lighting strikes.
Now that we are on topic, I would also like to know of they also talk a lot about public land fires, to blame the government.
If so, check something, do those fires started on public land? Or the fire started on private owned land and then spread to public land? They like to ignore the responsibility of private land owners to prevent fires on the land they own.
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