Lovely! I would adore it if we could get ranked choice voting in. Unfortunately, right now we don't have it. Getting it would require electoral power. Which brings us back to my first comment. It is an unfortunate situation

Ranked choice is by far the worst option out of every alternative system. It literally is only better than a single other system… first past the post.

We should be going for, at minimum, Approval Voting. If we really want a proper system then 3-2-1 and STAR are both vastly superior and combat every known measure that bad actors can take to influence an election.

Great stuff! I agree that the no kings rallies are not doing enough. I don't quite see how any of this is contradictory to coopting the less bad political party though.

So much forward momentum! Just a few more decades I'm sure!

Jokes aside I'd love to see a left wing revolution in my country but it just doesn't seem like it is going to happen any time soon.

Frankly, I think the best way to make it happen is through electoral politics. Getting people to vote also gets them organized and influences them in favor of revolution. Also having governmental power can produce materially better conditions; less repressive police state, more favorable judges, making the economy better so people can organize instead of work a second job, etc.

The point is that just "organizing for revolution" is just being smug and not doing anything. I'm standing by what I said.

Yeah, seems inevitable really. Even after the French Revolution (a darling event of lemmy) it just meant other people got to be rich elites.

Yes, but we will meet them in battle nonetheless.

Also, we win improvements sometimes. Less child labor now than in the 1800s at least.

Nothing stays the same forever, the Russian revolution ultimately failed, but people have given up on the dream

I don't know, Mamdani seems to be pissing of the rich fucks too much to be a oligarchy plant to placate the masses. The way the establishment Dems look at all the social Dems with fear seems like a step in the right direction.

I've acknowledged and agree that there are hard limits to what electoralism can accomplish, but I disagree that it's completely pointless. Electoralism can and has resulted in considerable improvements to the material conditions of vast swaths of working class people, and that can only be a good thing even if it does rob some energy from direct action movements. It's a lot harder to organize when you're working every waking moment and struggling to provide for yourself and others that depend on you, so winning concessions from the oligarchs actually helps a fair bit when you're trying to reorganize society. Why does everyone insist on this false binary between electoralism and direct action when the obvious play is to thoughtfully divide your energy between both?