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[–] 93 points 3 months ago (22 children)

People being 'anti-science.'

I grew up with Star Trek and old school science fiction stories where the rulers were 'The Council Of Science' or some such. There used to be a Presidential Science Advisor in the White House.

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  • [–] 41 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    Man, 2020 (Covid) was so depressing with all that. Nurses not wearing masks and denying the effectiveness of vaccines was such a kick in the crotch for my morale.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Is your user name based on Hai Karate aftershave?

    But seriously, yes. All Trump had to do was say something like 'I'm a businessman, not a doctor. Let's all follow my friend, Dr. Fauci's guidelines and stick together.'

    Our leaders aren't as smart as nine year olds.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Is your user name based on Hai Karate aftershave?

    Ha! Nope. It's just a bunch of gobbledygook. I was in karate as a youngun, and Hideaki was the name I took in Japanese class.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (6 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Catchy tune.

    Thanks for sharing.

    And be careful how you use it.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    This has been an interesting thread.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    You mean you find a busty, six foot tall sexually aggressive model 'interesting?'

    I guess that's one word you could use.

    Or were you talking about the song?

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    The problem with science is that consensus changes but often with tremendous lag.

    The whole anti-fat movement I grew up in, for instance. It never made sense to me so I've always been a fan of fat. I always eat my chicken skins, always eat (at least chew) the fat on my steaks.

    People used to worry about cholesterol a lot but then we found out dietary cholesterol doesn't really matter for most people.

    Turns out sugar is a lot worse than fat for you. Which they knew back then but industries being what they are ... They use money to influence the research. Now they're finally removing the refined sugars but now they're pumping like three, four maybe five artificial sweeteners in there and pretty much all of them are linked to various problems...

    That's great for science, when done honestly, it's striving to be better and it can change when it needs to. But these days there's a lot of bad science out there and it can be difficult to discern what is good science from what is total bullshit.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Nothing is ever 'pure.'

    The old name for Down's Syndrome was Mongoloid Idiocy, because mostly European doctors thought the eye folds made people look 'Asiatic.'

    The point is that you have people who are trying to discover an objective truth, and people who think that their Truth is already perfect.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    this is why a lot of folks don't think science is real though, because it doesn't produce eternal truths that simplistic and easy to understand in simple algebra F = ma. Once you go to mechanics and calculus, you lose them and it's magic and wizards.

    they think the fact you can make Pluto not a planet means science is just shit people make up on a whim. and they aren't wrong, in principle. it is made up shit, but it's done by consensus of peer-reviewed experts often over years and decades of work pointing us to a new conclusion.

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  • [+] [S] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    There's no point to follow the money. You follow the science. Both good and bad science are funded by drum roll please money!

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  • [+] [S] -1 points 3 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    I don't like who funded this, therefore the conclusion is suspect.

    That's a genetic fallacy.

    Scientific claims should be evaluated by evidence rather than by identifying a villain behind the funding.

    Suppose you follow the money and discover that the research was funded by an organization you consider trustworthy. Does that make the science good? If not, then following the money isn't actually what determines whether the science is good, is it?

    Me? Defeatist. And you meant that unironically didn't you... 😂

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    this pretty much sums up the enshitification to me. sure at its core its wealth disparity but I was a stem major and first they choked off funding and now its just plain ole antiscience. I mean he put out a presidential order about vaccine timelines.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago*

    The most of them think being anti-education is a kind of science in itself. They never looked at any of that as based in what was tangible, so shifting the role of who gets to define reality onto youtube gurus and facebook groups wasn't a huge change

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    i grew up in an anti science family, seems pretty normal to me.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Want to share come details?

    Did your family watch space shots? Could you see Star Wars? 6,000 year old Earth?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    they think science was for anti-social losers and weirdos and nerds. and scientists shouldn't be making public policy, business people should.

    the only 'science' they were OK with was doctors. because they help people, they don't work in some weird underground lab giving mice cancer for fun.

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  • [–] 42 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    How selfish and cruel people openly are.

    Blows my mind how common it is nowadays.

    The shit that comes out of stranger's mouths to me shocks me on a weekly basis now. Years ago it probably shocked me on a once every couple of months basis.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (10 children)

    Cruelty is a virtue in this age. Years of teaching people not to care what others think, no wonder they grew up to be casual sociopaths who lash out as an expression of their rugged and brave individuality

    Whenever you hear someone talk about how little they care take a second to consider what they're actually bemoaning in the context of living in a social fabric.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    these people care a lot about what others thing. they just want others to admire them for being rich and powerful and cool.

    no idea what you are on about ruggedness. these are incredibly fragile people who lash out at a barista for them not having oat milk.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You're right. Boldly proclaiming "I don't care about nothin" is an aesthetic in itself.

    I said ruggedness in a patronizing way, it gets lost in written form. The straw man I usually go to when envisioning this person usually reckons they are some kind of cowboy.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (5 children)

    It's not that we don't care! It's just that people=shit. ;)

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Which is generally the justification people use to act shitty :)

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    Shit isn't so bad. We all shit. I think the bigger problem is that the world is ran by the shittiest of the shitty people. And apparently most people look up to these shitty people.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    "Shit isn't so bad"

    "The problem is all the shit"

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Or let me clarify. Problem with shit is when people don't wipe their ass.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Reminds me of an old George Carlin bit "you ever notice how everyone else's stuff is shit, while all your shit is stuff?"

    Wiping starts at home. Don't just blame everyone else for their shit when you've still got a load in your own pants.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I would love if you could go into more detail about this. I've been a hermit for the past twenty years, so I haven't noticed a decline.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    just go outside.

    i can't go to a bar without hearing someone loudly brag about how they fucked somebody over or making other disgusting comments.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 months ago (20 children)

    Over the course of my life, DRM-restricted streaming services. I once thought people would be naturally against that. You're going to want to have your own copy of media you love to keep forever, right? Apparently I was wrong.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago* (15 children)

    convenience is all that matters for the average consumer.

    people who collect things are not average consumers, they are enthusiasts.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    Modern streaming isn’t even convenient though.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (7 children)

    is it? seems ridiculously cheap and convenient to me.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    If you want to watch all the popular shows, you’ll need $150+ of streaming subscriptions, you’ll need to log in to them all on your TV, and you’ll need to use the clunky shitty apps to watch your shows which might have ads in them.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (5 children)

    No, you don't.

    You subscribe to to at a time for 20 bucks, them swap to another service if you get bored.

    if you subscibe to all services at once you're just an idiot.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Constantly switching subscriptions is also far from convenient though

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    what are you talking about? it takes like 5 seconds to cancel a service and 5 seconds to sign up for another one. especially if you already had an account because all your info is already saved.

    do you even use any of these streaming services or are you just making up excuses about how terrible they are?

    i swap streaming services every 3-4 months. it's ridiculously easy and fast.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, I did use these streaming services before. That it's not difficult to do does not make it any less inconvenient. I have not had to think about what streaming service a movie or show is on for a few years now, I can tell you it's great.

    Also they make it not difficult on purpose, so it's easier for you to spend your money with them on a whim. Not relevant to the original argument, but also more shitty behaviour from these services.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    dude, what are you talking about. i told you ti takes seconds to cancel and sign up for each service.

    the fact you think a few seconds of time is inconvenient is insane. do you also think shopping online is inconvenient because you have to type in your credit card info?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    What are you talking about? Convenience is relative. Yeah, typing in my credit card is less convenient than having it auto-filled. As I said before, I'm not saying it's difficult or anything, but it most certainly is less convenient than just not having to switch.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I still can't imagine listening to my favourite song knowing that some company can take that away from me on their whim. I couldn't even enjoy that song under those terms. Maybe some people just don't value music the way I do.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    they don't.

    most people listen to top 20 pop music, not obscure weird stuff.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    I can kind of understand DRM in subscription streaming services. What I don't understand at all is people paying to "buy" DRM-protected media where you don't even get a local copy, like all major digital movie purchase platforms.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Most physical media still has region restrictions and other license restrictions. Look at the Xbox and it refused to play people's physical disks... Sometimes you can get a region free DVD/BR player but often not. And all those have DRM built in. So you're not streaming the DRM you just physically own the DRM. Cool.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Yeah that's almost as bad but represents a relatively small period in the history of physical media, that's why I point to streaming mainly. Though at least you could look after your physical media without having it turned off when some streaming service decides to. I grew up in the era of cassette tapes and wouldn't have dreamed of buying music without making a cassette backup and that wasn't even abnormal.

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  • [–] 47 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Trump's second term, specifically. The bar is in free fall and apparently rock bottom is not the lowest you can go.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The public acceptance of gambling. It's fucking everywhere. Even things that seem relatively innocuous on the surface, like trading cards or blind boxes, are less about the fun of collecting and more about the rush of ripping through multiple packs or boxes to focus on the resell value.

    I never imagined a world where we can easily bet on natural disasters and cancer on a whim. Please fire me into the sun.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Yeah and also that gambling is normalized on two fronts: For adults we’re normalizing betting on fucking everything like if it’s gonna rain tomorrow,
    And for children we’re normalizing gambling in video games. Gambling used to be a niche, almost something you’d be ashamed of. „I lost my money on the ponies“ would be something you’d tell your best friends when talking about your dark past.

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  • [–] 55 points 3 months ago (20 children)

    Trump as president? and again?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    I wish that were a surprise, but it was all so dreadfully predictable. There's an author that I used to follow around the 2010 timeframe, who wrote on his blog that when fascism came to America, it'd be in the form of "corn pone Nazis," not the stylish Hugo Boss-wearing ones. (Sadly, he's scrubbed those old entries, perhaps because it's too embarrassing after he went MAGA.)

    There were plenty of warning signs earlier than that, too. The only thing we didn't know then was the exact timing.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (11 children)

    Most of his voters aren't Nazis.

    They are people who want change. and the democrats didn't represent that in either election. they were status quo candidates. trump was the change candidate.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Right, they're not stylish or intelligent enough to be Nazis, but it's a fascist regime all the same.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    nobody in his 'regime' is smart or organized enough to be facist. they are not idealogical, they are just greedy.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    You've never meant a Evangelical, eh? They're Nazis.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    met tons of them. none of them were nazis.

    met a ton of athelist liberals though, who were more than happy to fantasize about mass-murdering religious people. that seems a lot more nazi to me.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    What would you call a congregation with a pastor that storms around on stage raging about how homosexuals and similarly other lgbtq+ are going to burn in hell?

    And the whole congregation is loving every minute of it?

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  • [+] -11 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    The democrats are genuinely that awful though. They basically tell 2/3 of the USA to go fuck itself, and well, they don't get their votes.

    They used to be a working-class party. Now they are the party of the college-educated, which is only 1/3 of voters.

    So Trump one. All he had to do was appeal to those people, because the Democrats refuse to do so. Boom, wins two elections.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    The democrats refuse to appeal to republicans? In my experience, trying to appeal to republicans is one of the bigger reasons the democrats lose elections.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    "Democrats" lose their entire audience when they try to "bridge the gap" or "compromise" with people that their actual base view as fucking insane.

    It ends up being vote for the fascist, or the person that wants to negotiate with a fascist.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    1/3 of the country is independent. they are the swing voters. you have to appeal to them.

    that's the funny thing about winning elections... you need to get people to vote for you to do that.

    the people who voted for Obama, voted for Trump.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Thats common misinfo spread by insane lefties but not its not true at all.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    insane lefties are the majority of the posers on fedi. they existing their own fictional universe that everyone else who isn't them is a nazi/extremist. and it's just a reflection because they themselves are often the most nazi-like in their desire to use the force of the state to impose their will/values on everyone else.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Ads in your fucking web browser. I tried searching up something and got a "Sponsored" recommendation. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    Ads stuffed into everything.

    Native advertising in my Reddit feed before I quit Reddit.

    Unskippable ads in YouTube. Remedied only by Firefox and uBlock.

    The sheer quantity of ads on Amazon Prime and CBC Gem keep me from those streaming platforms. Others will go that way soon enough.

    The last straw were the ads in the launcher I used to use for Android. NovaLauncher got dropped in a hurry.

    I'm worried about ever buying a car that will hold me as a captive audience to be advertised at. Ads on screens in bathrooms, elevators, and at gas pumps all irk me.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    Reports on the high rates of illiteracy and semiliteracy among American adults.

    News reports on measles outbreaks.

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