I think it ultimately comes from the magic circle, which is a pretty ancient idea. I know Fairy Tale is pretty notable for this, but I don’t think it’s the first anime to do it
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I feel it's mostly MMOs causing this new conception
My take is that it just made distinctive sense to show that magic was being cast as opposed to spiritual manipulation that was on the rise of superpowers.
Cardcaptor Sakura and Mahojin Guruguru are, off the top of my head, both older examples that still used 2D magic circles.
It's just the ideas of magic circle, it's actually very old and i am quite happy they use it, people just using magic wihout always felt lame to me tbh
TVTropes doesn't have anything listed as the origin, but it has a ton of examples if you want to go back in some of the media and see how far it goes back.
The reasoning they give to its popularity is that floating text is easy to animate, can be very flashy for little effort, and can be used as a plot device, with either characters needing time to draw runes, or people refining/debugging their spells, and having something observable to show off the magic power level or the effective range of spells. Basically, it's a really cool, easy, and cheap way to make magic look badass.
Thank you for the link! I had not thought about the computer-graphics factor, and that makes absolute sense for the increase in popularity of this graphic device.
Not directly related to anime but to representations of magic in general, but this reminds me of the speed up spell "haste" in Final Fantasy II (PSP) and Final Fantasy X. In FFII, iirc no glyph appears, and the character gets so fast that in the initial peak, he/she runs off to one side of the screen and come back at the other. In X, a glyph appears, but it is a spherical clockwork-like glyph instead.
In a more recent work, now back at anime, magic used by humans in Dragon Raja has audio and visual representations, the voice of the caster distorting, a mist coming out of the caster's moth iirc, and both this mist and the eyes of the caster glowing.
Dragon Raja, apparently making 2D animation in a 3D software, probably is what allows this non-glyph type of representation. By extension, FFX using a 3D engine probably is what allows and even facilitates this type of 3D glyph instead. And FFII, though 2D, is from before the glyph trend, thus preserving the old style.
And this makes me think, maybe the 2D glyphs are used in manga as a way to make easier to represent magic in a purely 2D and static medium, and this ends up causing a habit which evolves to a culture over time.
Curious Archive has a recent video on representation of magic btw, though iirc it's a Nebula exclusive. =/
EDIT: It was in a lot of Final Fantasy Games, too
I wonder if it became popular around the time of Full Metal Alchemist.
Manga Authors have been taking more inspirations from western myth and folklore than they did 40 years ago, particularly the Alchemists who were fond of sophisticated patterns and diagrams, as well as celtic runes and even some Chinese sorcerors.
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Oh gods no, this shit goes back at least into the late 80s early 90s. Ah! My Goddess does it, Slayers does it, Silent Möbius does it too. At the time these effects would be used more for their historic value rather than cheap animation, but they’re the tiny stones at the start of the landslide.
These are good examples
I know Cardcaptor Sakura was doing it long before FMA was, but I doubt they were the "first" either.
particularly the Alchemists who were fond of sophisticated patterns and diagrams, as well as celtic runes and even some Chinese sorcerors.
I'm sure that's a huge part of it.
Less about fondness, more about keeping secrets secret. If the entire planet is trying to synthesize immortality, wouldn't you want to keep the secret to yourself and peers? Espionage and theft will always exist. But cryptography deters adversaries from learning your notes as quickly. Alchemists used sophisticated means to keep secrets secret.
Magic formulae is no different.
If everyone can cast «gun,» everyone will cast «gun» e-vry-time.
Now «fold» my laundry pretties.
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I'm not sure where it came from, but FMA also came to mind for me too...
As someone's already said, the concept of magical circles/diagrams goes way, way back. But the earliest example I can think of in anime is The Slayers (the first season, which would have aired in the mid-1990s). The interesting bit there is that only a few spells (I think Burst Rondo was one) create patterns there, and when they do show up, they're on the ground, not in front of the caster.
The earliest example I can think of of a magic circle in a JRPG is in the SNES version of Chrono Trigger, where one appears—on the ground again—in a scene where one character is attempting to summon the Big Bad. It's part of the background graphic. Putting something like that in the combat system would have been taxing for the consoles of the era, so if there are any older examples, they're probably also handled as background graphics.
(This is possibly the geekiest post I've made in, um, at least a week?)
Thank you for the "references"! I don't think I even saw those.
Indeed the idea is old, and inherent in most early cultures in relation to drawing and writing, which were seen as "magical". And this is reflected more generally in anime, for example in the very common theme of "getting increased powers upon receiving a name".
What I was wondering was why the sudden increase, because today it seems that all fantasy anime use this device. I had not thought about the computer-graphics factor, and that makes a lot of sense!
Great geeky post 🚀
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