This is why I never bought a second Samsung phone. The one I bought was pretty nice, but the the huge amount of crapware that could not be uninstalled really ruined the experience for me.
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I'm never gonna buy a Samsung phone whether they like it or not
I made the mistake of getting an S25 recently when I moved off iPhones for the first time in years. I love the look of Samsung hardware and I had one of their phones way back but I hadn't kept up to date enough on Android to know that flashing custom ROMs is practically dead which wrecked my plans.
Now I'm just waiting for this thing to be paid off and I'll get a Pixel (or preferably a Moto if possible by then) to install Graphnee on
This right here is my only complaint about my motorola. I wish that the UI looks sleeker because I have yet to find anything except for Apple that remotely comes close to the sleekness of Samsung's One UI.
Google is no longer supporting new Pixel phones in AOSP. The days of custom ROMs just working on Pixels is over. Consider getting Fairphone if custom ROMs are a must have for you.
At least it's android and better than xiaomi
I'm already never buying another Samsung phone - or any other Samsung device, for that matter. You don't need to keep convincing me.
Had a Galaxy A8 phone before switching to a Pixel 4XL with GrapheneOS. Guess which one had better performance.
Well you went from Samsung's budget model to a Google flagship. I'm sure Graphene felt nice, but it wasn't why the phone performed better lol
Go from an S series and it well beat the pixel. Software cannot fix the shit that google is doing with hardware.
I dropped Samsung after the combo hit of removing thr micro sd card slot and preinstallation of Facebook. Went Motorola G stylus and was mindbown by the performance on it. I have no idea why I was paying 1.2k on my devices, this one is third to half the price and does everything without the bloat. Makes me wish I had done this a couple years ago instead of repeatedly cycling through S20s that were just lemons. would have probably saved myself some money.
I got a used Stylus 2024 and removed everything recommended on the debloat lists, using Shizuku and Canta, and now my battery lasts three days.
All of the (non-Verizon) Motos I've seen have unlockable bootloaders, too.
I havent unlocked mine cause I didn't get it used and while I know its not legal for them to do, I don't have the energy to fight them if I did try and do a warranty claim since they state they invalidate warranties when you unlock the boot loader
Yeah, I did not unlock mine yet, only started the process to make sure it's possible. That's the nuclear option for whenever lockdown happens here. What is really needed is the relockable bootloader, i.e. Moto's supposed upcoming GrapheneOS phone.
Thank fuck debloating is still possible without bootloader unlock or root.
We bought exactly one Samsung Android device, that attempted to force us to use Samsung tools for:
- app store
- contacts
- calendar
- internet browsing
- calculator
- chromecast
I'm pretty sure that there were more.
We won't ever buy a Samsung Android device again.
You can always ignore them and install your own apps. The problem is that it doesn't let you uninstall them and they take up space for no reason. For what it's worth, some of Samsung's default apps are better than Google's.
Yup, same, years ago I used all the google apps, chrome, gmail, pay, keep, contact, clock, etc then bought a Samsung phone so every apps were kind of duplicated with samsung pay, samsung internet, samsung agenda, samsung gallery, samsung clock etc. And if you use google clock for your morning alarms, samsung app killer will kill it during the night and BAM! no alarm the morning. I ditched it and bought a Pixel.
I use xiaomi redmi phones, fight me if you want, but it comes with a ton of extra bloatware and try to force you to use their apps. I have used shizuku+canta, basically uses ADB without a computer to remove all those peaky impossible to uninstall apps. Boom, cheap phone without those pesky issues. Another thing if you are really ambitious is trying to install a custom ROM, but that is out of most peoples capabilities. So shizuku+canta will get you very far
I've accidentally got the newest Xperia model instead of the previous one (still no LineageOS) and had to replace some core apps (like, phone, SMS) with foss alternatives, since they kept nagging me about the forcibly removed Play dependencies. To my complaint, Sony answered that "they sell it as a Google package and the Play framework is integral there". How this is GDPR compliant, can be sold here, is beyound me.
But the hardware is worth it, can even be used with one hand and no battery worries.
Btw, plastic body is superior; my screen and battery should've be at least 10x cracked now. Especially after a Oneplus, whose back is covered in glass, can't really be repaired.
Well am glad I don't update my Samsung phone
Amazon is doing this many years now, including Amazon app and Spotify. Lots of money to be made out of it
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