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[–] 30 points 3 months ago (6 children)

This is why I never bought a second Samsung phone. The one I bought was pretty nice, but the the huge amount of crapware that could not be uninstalled really ruined the experience for me.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Android has been totally ruined my oems. Install lineage os and you find out what android really is.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I discovered a Nokia X20 part of the Android One program, that has native Android on it. I loved it so much, I bought a second one, even though my first is still going strong.

    Two issues, no more OS updates. I'm stuck on Android 14, and there's a weird bug with the navigation buttons vanishing from time to time.

    Not a recommendation as such, more that there are phones that run unadulterated Android.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    I'm never gonna buy a Samsung phone whether they like it or not

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I made the mistake of getting an S25 recently when I moved off iPhones for the first time in years. I love the look of Samsung hardware and I had one of their phones way back but I hadn't kept up to date enough on Android to know that flashing custom ROMs is practically dead which wrecked my plans.

    Now I'm just waiting for this thing to be paid off and I'll get a Pixel (or preferably a Moto if possible by then) to install Graphnee on

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    This right here is my only complaint about my motorola. I wish that the UI looks sleeker because I have yet to find anything except for Apple that remotely comes close to the sleekness of Samsung's One UI.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    At least it's android and better than xiaomi

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago

    1 out of 170 bloatware apps on samsung's android

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    I'm already never buying another Samsung phone - or any other Samsung device, for that matter. You don't need to keep convincing me.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Had a Galaxy A8 phone before switching to a Pixel 4XL with GrapheneOS. Guess which one had better performance.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I dropped Samsung after the combo hit of removing thr micro sd card slot and preinstallation of Facebook. Went Motorola G stylus and was mindbown by the performance on it. I have no idea why I was paying 1.2k on my devices, this one is third to half the price and does everything without the bloat. Makes me wish I had done this a couple years ago instead of repeatedly cycling through S20s that were just lemons. would have probably saved myself some money.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I got a used Stylus 2024 and removed everything recommended on the debloat lists, using Shizuku and Canta, and now my battery lasts three days.

    All of the (non-Verizon) Motos I've seen have unlockable bootloaders, too.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I havent unlocked mine cause I didn't get it used and while I know its not legal for them to do, I don't have the energy to fight them if I did try and do a warranty claim since they state they invalidate warranties when you unlock the boot loader

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Yeah, I did not unlock mine yet, only started the process to make sure it's possible. That's the nuclear option for whenever lockdown happens here. What is really needed is the relockable bootloader, i.e. Moto's supposed upcoming GrapheneOS phone.

    Thank fuck debloating is still possible without bootloader unlock or root.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Shizuku + Canta is the way

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    We bought exactly one Samsung Android device, that attempted to force us to use Samsung tools for:

    • app store
    • email
    • contacts
    • calendar
    • internet browsing
    • calculator
    • chromecast

    I'm pretty sure that there were more.

    We won't ever buy a Samsung Android device again.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You can always ignore them and install your own apps. The problem is that it doesn't let you uninstall them and they take up space for no reason. For what it's worth, some of Samsung's default apps are better than Google's.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Yup, same, years ago I used all the google apps, chrome, gmail, pay, keep, contact, clock, etc then bought a Samsung phone so every apps were kind of duplicated with samsung pay, samsung internet, samsung agenda, samsung gallery, samsung clock etc. And if you use google clock for your morning alarms, samsung app killer will kill it during the night and BAM! no alarm the morning. I ditched it and bought a Pixel.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I use xiaomi redmi phones, fight me if you want, but it comes with a ton of extra bloatware and try to force you to use their apps. I have used shizuku+canta, basically uses ADB without a computer to remove all those peaky impossible to uninstall apps. Boom, cheap phone without those pesky issues. Another thing if you are really ambitious is trying to install a custom ROM, but that is out of most peoples capabilities. So shizuku+canta will get you very far

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    I've accidentally got the newest Xperia model instead of the previous one (still no LineageOS) and had to replace some core apps (like, phone, SMS) with foss alternatives, since they kept nagging me about the forcibly removed Play dependencies. To my complaint, Sony answered that "they sell it as a Google package and the Play framework is integral there". How this is GDPR compliant, can be sold here, is beyound me.

    But the hardware is worth it, can even be used with one hand and no battery worries.

    Btw, plastic body is superior; my screen and battery should've be at least 10x cracked now. Especially after a Oneplus, whose back is covered in glass, can't really be repaired.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Well am glad I don't update my Samsung phone

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Amazon is doing this many years now, including Amazon app and Spotify. Lots of money to be made out of it

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