Yeah it was funny to read :

“Based on the limited nature of the customer information believed to be involved, we determined that individual notifications were not warranted under applicable privacy laws,” the Suno spokesperson added.

But then (talking about the hacker):

They said they also accessed Suno’s customer list, which included customers’ emails and/or phone numbers and Stripe payment details, depending on what they used to login. The hacker provided a sample of some of the customers, some of whom confirmed to 404 Media they had used their phone number to sign up for Suno and said they were never notified of a breach.

I guess email address, phone and payment details don't matter enough to notify people.

No, but it's good to have proof.

All it takes is one case to go to trial instead of settling. One can only hope.

I mean, it isn't like Google or Spotify created the media that was scraped... They are just the hosts.

Unfortunately AI doesn't work like that. Any way to explain it would be an oversimplification but I can try.

The training data (songs) are used to create the weights. This is a bunch of numbers that are on their own meaningless - they don't map to specific songs, but to attributes such as "tone" "rhythm"... And like that but many (millions of) abstract attributes that don't make sense as people, but make sense to computers.

So if the thing makes a song that is very "rhythmic" but also "tonal", there's no specific training song that contributed to that - all did, and it's a mess to decypher how much each contributed to each attribute. Except the resulting song doesn't use two parameters, uses many millions, so it's essentially impossible to know.

I personally know indie musicians who are popular enough to have had their music scraped and used as training data, in part because they are forced to use platforms like Spotify, YouTube, etc. to eke out a living. And then people have had the audacity to present AI slop versions of music using their vocals to them, expecting them to be happy about it.

Were they paid for their decades of work? No. Were they given the opportunity to opt out? No. This isn't The Man trying to capitalize upon an open and equitable system. This is The Man stealing from the poors and each other, and pretending they didn't (or worse, acting like their victimhood is somehow equal to everyone else's).

And to add even further insult to injury, these companies have tricked many of those same poors that these plagiarism engines are tools to "level the playing field" against people who have spent years honing their craft. Why, the very nerve of those people using their time to become experts! /s

Death to training without paying the stockholders, death to open-source...

Even better: how about death to training until you pay the original artists fairly and equitably, or allow them to opt out? AI should not be treated as some inevitable thief that we must all work around.

The only things I despise more than a predator company are other predator companies

Edit: grammar

Do you outsource your comments to an LLM? Got a lot of the hallmarks of AI writing here and in your previous comments.

Edit: yeah I'm like 80% certain this is another automated LLM account. Their profile description reeks of it, and except for the first three comments, their comment length is consistent at all times, there is an overuse of colons and "it's not X it's Y" statements, and weird formatting choices across the board. This is pretty much a running advertisement for their AI consultant and news (?) platform.