Looking for suggestions besides Kubuntu, KDE Neon, Debian, Arch Linux, or Kali. I have previous experience with XFCE, Ratpoison, Openbox, KDE Plasma. Recently started trying out LXQT.

Would be on a modest Dell Latitude with i5, 14" 1080p display with intel graphics, and maybe 16gb ram.

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[–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

I bought an old laptop to install libreboot on and I've been messing with Gentoo. I see the appeal now that I've tried it. It took me a couple days to compile librewolf but assuming your laptop isnt from 2013 I imagine things would build a lot faster for you

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    CachyOS is pretty popular right now :)

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Okay. Window manager or other software preference?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    This is blog post is several years old now, but the points to consider when choosing a distro are still quite relevant.

    Choosing Your Desktop Linux Distribution

    TL;DR - Probably Fedora Workstation

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I have a Lenovo Flex 2 15, which has an i3, 1080p display with intel graphics (although it's a 15" display) and upgraded to 16 GB of RAM

    I use AntiX/MX Linux bc they're made with lower spec/older systems in mind. I started with AntiX-core to keep everything as lightweight (not a ton of background processes = low memory usage, low cpu usage) as possible

    I use Sway bc 1. It's more lightweight than a full DE, and 2. Keyboard navigation is a must for laptops (trackpads only exist to inflict pain and misery on the world)

    A couple great things about this setup is that it rarely overheats (as long as I keep it to a couple tasks at a time), and the battery can last for a 2 hours if I forget to plug it in

    Even if you don't end up going with any of these suggestions, please take this to heart: never stop tweaking your system. You end up learning so much about it, and every little change makes it feel all that much more special to you

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago

    Added to the list. I've been considering mxlinux, but went with lubuntu's lxqt for experimenting recently. I make a podcast called Linux Prepper, where I've been exploring such setups.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I suggest Void Linux and putting Niri + noctalia-shell on it.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Okay, added as an option. Another person requesting using Sway with Void.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Sway is also nice if you prefer more traditional tiling WM.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I specifically listed Debian as a no, just because I have tons of experiences with Debian XFCE. Spoiler, it is great. Haha.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    All of them. Put home in a separate partition and just rename /home/kiol to /home/kiol2 before installing the next one and be careful not to format that partition. Also keep a space separated text list of all of your needed programs to paste into whatever package manager command in a file somewhere in your home dir. Go into distrowatch and try the most niche ones nobody has ever heard about too. Become THE distro hopper.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago (6 children)

    You would recommend Alma for a daily driver laptop?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    I just installed it on a workstation. I'm mostly used to seeing it. Headless but it looks pretty nice with KDE. Alma is a fedora branch and RHEL is generally stable and just works.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Why not base Fedora? A lot of people are saying that with default gnome. I've never even tried yum, so either would be something new.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yum/dnf is easy it works just like apt get

    Ie: yum install htop

    As for why Alma, it's what I'm most familiar with coming from a Centos background. And from what I remember and can tell Alma seems much more stable than centos. While still not constantly changing things every 6months like fedora does

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    If you want a real adventure, try out Qubes.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Devuan if you want something solid and boring. Gentoo if you feel adventures and want something that's fun and solid!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    I use Aurora, done by the same guys who make Bazzite (de facto PC gaming distro) Aurora is immutable, a flavor of Fedora, meant as a general purpose workstation. It comes with KDE, but UniversalBlue has some distros with other DE's built in, as your post suggests you don't like KDE

    I had tried Manjaro before that, but I kept messing up the network drivers somehow. Thus, I looked for immutable distros that are harder for me to break. If you're not as reckless as me, Manjaro might do you good?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I ran Manjaro over a few years and found it just fine. I appreciate that approach to Arch. Would you recommend Aurora when the system specs listed are i5, 8 - 16gb ram and old intel integrated graphics?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    The only thing I'd hesitate on is the integrated graphics. Tbh I have no idea how that will behave. Aurora's system requirements lead me to conclude that if your laptop is later than ~2014, you should be okay.

    My Aurora desktop starts using ~2GB memory at boot, so your 16 should be fine.

    Before I forget, their GNOME workstation distro: https://projectbluefin.io/ if you're into that.

    I recommend Aurora because I already use it, and think it's cool. I've only ever used it on one machine, so if you go that route, I hope your experience is good, too. I like KDE, and Aurora is immutable so it's harder to mess up critical components. Works for me.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    i almost went with aurora here. in fact it's still on the other pc i was also testing on, sitting on a shelf unused the last several months. but after trying out pretty much everything i could get my hands on.. i ended up back 'home', on debian. where i started ~ 30 years ago.

    solus os (independent 'semi rolling') and ultramarine (fedora based) were two other non-debian based ones on my short list. i already have a manjaro desktop so it wasn't on my list at all.. i already knew i didn't want it on this box.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I went with fedora bluefin.

    It's an atomic/immutable type OS, based on silverblue, but with a bunch of drivers and software bundled in.

    Atomic is not for everyone, but I love it. I tried it on a whim when I got my framework 13 over a year ago, and it's been on there ever since.

    I've been using Linux on and off for a couple of decades now, mostly Ubuntu, but some others (OG DSL anyone?).

    Really though I've never been able to ditch windows until bluefin. My problem has always been that after a year or two, my system starts to get unstable. And you can forget about complete version upgrades. Out of the question. They never fail to always fail. I just can't stop tinkering with things.

    But bluefin? It has everything I want and need in a daily driver. And it's very nature FORCES me to not tinker with the inner gubbins. Thusly, it just works. Every day. Every update. Solid.

    I use distrobox for tinkering. Or I spin up a Windows VM in proxmox if I need to get crazy. And I've still got a Windows computer gathering dust in the corner for when Windows on metal is required, but that's only happened once since I started this party.

    So yeah, if you haven't given it a try, I highly recommend it.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    KDE and Xfce Ubuntu spins have been great last few LTS, just leaving them alone. I've also run DSL.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    That's fair. I had 24.04 installed because I needed a Linux de for something, and it eventually became the base of my Plex install for awhile.

    I purposely did very little to it, besides periodically update it.

    Almost immediately I had display issues where the monitor would shimmy back and forth about 10 pixels, rapidly. No rhyme or reason. I figured it was a Wayland thing.

    Then the updater started hanging. That's when I started learning proxmox to properly replace the whole setup.

    By the time I got it moved over, you couldn't restart the machine unattended, because it would kernel panic unless you used grub to revert to an older kernel.

    I swear I didn't tinker with this thing, it just.. Died.

    Of course that's just my experience 🤷‍♂️ Glad things have been solid for you. I still recommend poking at atomic distros, I think they're the future for a lot of less experienced users. It'll be good to have knowledge of how they work.

    I've got my very non-techy buddy running it right now. There are a couple of issues with flatpaks not having extended permissions, but otherwise, smooth sailing.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Personally, I can't stand using anything but GNOME on a laptop (the touchpad experience on GNOME is much better than KDE), so my personal recommend would have to be something like Fedora Workstation. I find the ~6 month version release cycle very nice, it's a good balance between rolling and stable.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago

    Here are options, which I'll choose by dice roll. Laptop arrives eta today.

    • Project Name Window Manager
    • Devuan —
    • Fedora default Gnome
    • Gentoo Libreboot firmware
    • Void Sway or Niri + noctalia-shell
    • MXlinux Sway
    • CachyOS Niri + Limine
    • Bazzite
    • NixOS Cinnamon + Guix + Flakes
    • QubesOS Whonix
    • Zorin Gnome
    • LMDE
    • OpenSuse Slowroll
    • EndeavorOS Plasma
    • Slackware
    • Alma
    • Aurora
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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (3 children)

    once you pass the 4 gig of ram mark, all of the distros become usable for you, so -- in your shoes -- i would decide what's the most important things you need.

    for me, it's a distro that doesn't require to me to upgrade beyond the using package/kernel updates and that's something like debian where i can stick is a release for a really long time w/o having to reinstall when the next version is released.

    most distros seem to a have a migration path, but it's rare to find one that doesn't have any hiccups.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I've been on kubuntu many years, with plenty more before that. So, open to trying something new. Otherwise, I'd not change anything.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    yes, their LTS trims mimic the same behavior that debian has with their releases and that cachyos recommendation is probably as different as you can get without going into bsd. lol

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Update, been running Fedora 44 for just over 6 weeks. Settled into Cosmic after experimenting with LXQT and Gnome. Fought with partially implemented installer in Hannah Montana Linux, then gave MX Linux with Fluxbox a spin (but found it struggling with running multiple processes). Cosmic is quite bare, but that isn't an issue in coming from LXQT. Performance is fantastic, even if it doesn't "do much" beyond run a thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    PikaOS has been decent.

    Debian with newer packages and CachyOS-style optimisations baked in.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    AntiX is fun

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