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[–] 16 points 3 months ago

Being such a menace, that Xinjiang is seen as the lesser of two evils. "At least the Chinese are not killing people outside of China!"

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    Winnie the Pooh > Sinny the Poo

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Xi taking Napoleon's quote "never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake" like a champ. Not that I support CCP but the current times is a massive propaganda and PR win for China.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    They're just doing what US did after WW2. Play nice for the cameras while coopting the ubermensch in the background.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    There are no absolute clear heroes in geopolitics but i think the EU is the least evil among the major international players, even though there are repeated attempts at their own tech surveillance. That being said, the EU is better to root for.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    I'm an American and I favor China more than the US

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    I'm Canadian and this mirrors how everyone I know feels.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I don't doubt it a bit. China's got issues, but when it comes to foreign policy they're miles ahead of the US, especially these last couple years.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Look I'm no tankie, I'm not really here to defend China, the state deserves to be called out.

    ...but the topic here is comparing them with the us. Picking a new middle-eastern country to bomb every decade or so, meddling in South and Central America, paying for the genocide of Palestine, and (economically the most important, unfortunately) increasingly erratic trade policy makes dealing with the us a pain in the ass.

    Edit: how could I forget the fact that the prez and his government are nakedly child predators? That ought to ding their reputation on the world stage a bit more than obesity and gun violence

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Eeh. These kinds of global opinion polls are rarely worth anything, but I can see it being largely true. China has been making a real push to expand their soft power and it's been pretty effective - see opinions on lemmy about china's genocides for an example. It's boosted opinions about them quite a bit at a time when the US is taking it's rep for a relaxing drive off a cliff. The US rep will almost undoubtedly recover if/when we oust trump though - he just makes it so damn easy to hate him specifically, and his obsessive drive to make everything about himself has largely (and sometimes correctly) shifted the social burden of the fault for US crimes from the country as a whole to him and his cronies specifically.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    I think insights regarding trends et cetera can be drawn from this poll.

    Interesting point about the US behavior being tied to Trump's brand.

    Australia's relationship with the US has taken a hit. The government is still keen to cosy up because it's our only chance to maintain resistance to China's influence. However, the public sentiment on the US isn't very positive at all.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    LOL. I don't. The US is cooked. Yes China are assholes too, just less-so.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Who is more or less of an asshole is a subjective question.

    Theres no question that the Chinese are assholes, but are they moreso than the US?

    In the last few years the US has not only abandoned any semblance of a response to climate change, but they've doubled down on open hostility to renewable projects. As a global leader, this provides cover to every other country who can point to the US as a wealthy greenhouse gas emitter and say "what's the point of us reducing our emissions when the US is actively increasing theirs?"

    Would you like to talk about how much harm this will cause in the coming decades? What is the death toll likely to be, and how many people are going to be subjected to poverty and displaced due to famine?

    The other salient issue is the current energy instability due to Trump's belligerence with Iran. In the US it might just cost more to fill up your car with fuel. Theres a lot of regions in south East asia, where most fuel from the strait of Hormuz goes, that are enduring completely unnecessary energy crisis right now.

    Would you like to talk about how many farms cant afford fertiliser because of US arrogance and what the impact of that might be in the coming months? Or perhaps what it might be line to have a small restaurant who simply can not buy LPG due to shortages?

    Finally, with the US breathless support of Israel theres no moral high-sounding to be had by pointing to China's human rights abuses.

    Growing up in Australia in the 90s the US was always "bigger and better", now you're just assholes.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    How many millions died in the Middle East because of the US in the last fifty years? And how many Falun Gong and Uighurs and Tibetans died because of China in the same time?

    Compare those numbers, mate. You may be surprised.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You did not look it up, did you? We're talking about today. Which country is worse for the world today?

    If you want to bring up Mao, I could bring up Kissinger and Nixon's bombings of Laos, or the obliteration of the cities in the Korean War, or the United Fruit Company.

    See, I did not even mention South America in my question about the last fifty years. Look at the numbers, honestly compare. There have been millions of deaths in the Middle East from the US wars there. Sanctions have killed millions more. You have to realise that this actually happened if you want to honestly understand why people might see the US on the same level as China. It did not start with Trump.

    I do acknowledge Mao's killings, the killings of intellectuals and landlords and ethnic minorities who refused to submit, and dissidents who died in camps, and pregnant women given forced abortions, and gay people imprisoned for deviancy.

    However, that was not the point of this discussion. The point is that things have changed.

    The US is seen as the monster now, because it is more dangerous to other countries than China.

    Also, China's repression has slowed down a lot, so the increasing repression in the USA is alarming everyone who used to see the US as a reliable if warlike friend.

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