▲ 141 ▼ More people around the world now favour China over the US, Pew study suggests (www.bbc.com) submitted 3 months ago by cm0002@suppo.fi to c/world 28 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (20 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] 0ops@piefed.zip 13 points 3 months ago (2 children) I don't doubt it a bit. China's got issues, but when it comes to foreign policy they're miles ahead of the US, especially these last couple years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 0ops@piefed.zip 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Look I'm no tankie, I'm not really here to defend China, the state deserves to be called out. ...but the topic here is comparing them with the us. Picking a new middle-eastern country to bomb every decade or so, meddling in South and Central America, paying for the genocide of Palestine, and (economically the most important, unfortunately) increasingly erratic trade policy makes dealing with the us a pain in the ass. Edit: how could I forget the fact that the prez and his government are nakedly child predators? That ought to ding their reputation on the world stage a bit more than obesity and gun violence permalink fedilink source parent [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Eeh. These kinds of global opinion polls are rarely worth anything, but I can see it being largely true. China has been making a real push to expand their soft power and it's been pretty effective - see opinions on lemmy about china's genocides for an example. It's boosted opinions about them quite a bit at a time when the US is taking it's rep for a relaxing drive off a cliff. The US rep will almost undoubtedly recover if/when we oust trump though - he just makes it so damn easy to hate him specifically, and his obsessive drive to make everything about himself has largely (and sometimes correctly) shifted the social burden of the fault for US crimes from the country as a whole to him and his cronies specifically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fizzle 3 points 3 months ago I think insights regarding trends et cetera can be drawn from this poll. Interesting point about the US behavior being tied to Trump's brand. Australia's relationship with the US has taken a hit. The government is still keen to cosy up because it's our only chance to maintain resistance to China's influence. However, the public sentiment on the US isn't very positive at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago* Then you live in America. I do not, and buddy, we do not like your government. permalink fedilink source parent [–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago It's true up here in Canada. Fuck America. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fizzle 4 points 3 months ago (10 children) LOL. I don't. The US is cooked. Yes China are assholes too, just less-so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] fizzle 5 points 3 months ago Who is more or less of an asshole is a subjective question. Theres no question that the Chinese are assholes, but are they moreso than the US? In the last few years the US has not only abandoned any semblance of a response to climate change, but they've doubled down on open hostility to renewable projects. As a global leader, this provides cover to every other country who can point to the US as a wealthy greenhouse gas emitter and say "what's the point of us reducing our emissions when the US is actively increasing theirs?" Would you like to talk about how much harm this will cause in the coming decades? What is the death toll likely to be, and how many people are going to be subjected to poverty and displaced due to famine? The other salient issue is the current energy instability due to Trump's belligerence with Iran. In the US it might just cost more to fill up your car with fuel. Theres a lot of regions in south East asia, where most fuel from the strait of Hormuz goes, that are enduring completely unnecessary energy crisis right now. Would you like to talk about how many farms cant afford fertiliser because of US arrogance and what the impact of that might be in the coming months? Or perhaps what it might be line to have a small restaurant who simply can not buy LPG due to shortages? Finally, with the US breathless support of Israel theres no moral high-sounding to be had by pointing to China's human rights abuses. Growing up in Australia in the 90s the US was always "bigger and better", now you're just assholes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (5 children) How many millions died in the Middle East because of the US in the last fifty years? And how many Falun Gong and Uighurs and Tibetans died because of China in the same time? Compare those numbers, mate. You may be surprised. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (3 children) You did not look it up, did you? We're talking about today. Which country is worse for the world today? If you want to bring up Mao, I could bring up Kissinger and Nixon's bombings of Laos, or the obliteration of the cities in the Korean War, or the United Fruit Company. See, I did not even mention South America in my question about the last fifty years. Look at the numbers, honestly compare. There have been millions of deaths in the Middle East from the US wars there. Sanctions have killed millions more. You have to realise that this actually happened if you want to honestly understand why people might see the US on the same level as China. It did not start with Trump. I do acknowledge Mao's killings, the killings of intellectuals and landlords and ethnic minorities who refused to submit, and dissidents who died in camps, and pregnant women given forced abortions, and gay people imprisoned for deviancy. However, that was not the point of this discussion. The point is that things have changed. The US is seen as the monster now, because it is more dangerous to other countries than China. Also, China's repression has slowed down a lot, so the increasing repression in the USA is alarming everyone who used to see the US as a reliable if warlike friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juli@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Are these enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_Mine_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Memorial_Day_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing P.S. Fuck China and Fuck USA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) No one cares about your whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago Kinda ridiculous to call it whataboutism when that's the point of the entire article, comparing the two. Though yes, the US is fucked right now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago* Not like they're saying it in English. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tortina_original@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Are you an American, by any chance? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 13 points 3 months ago (2 children) I don't doubt it a bit. China's got issues, but when it comes to foreign policy they're miles ahead of the US, especially these last couple years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 0ops@piefed.zip 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Look I'm no tankie, I'm not really here to defend China, the state deserves to be called out. ...but the topic here is comparing them with the us. Picking a new middle-eastern country to bomb every decade or so, meddling in South and Central America, paying for the genocide of Palestine, and (economically the most important, unfortunately) increasingly erratic trade policy makes dealing with the us a pain in the ass. Edit: how could I forget the fact that the prez and his government are nakedly child predators? That ought to ding their reputation on the world stage a bit more than obesity and gun violence permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 0ops@piefed.zip 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Look I'm no tankie, I'm not really here to defend China, the state deserves to be called out. ...but the topic here is comparing them with the us. Picking a new middle-eastern country to bomb every decade or so, meddling in South and Central America, paying for the genocide of Palestine, and (economically the most important, unfortunately) increasingly erratic trade policy makes dealing with the us a pain in the ass. Edit: how could I forget the fact that the prez and his government are nakedly child predators? That ought to ding their reputation on the world stage a bit more than obesity and gun violence permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) Look I'm no tankie, I'm not really here to defend China, the state deserves to be called out. ...but the topic here is comparing them with the us. Picking a new middle-eastern country to bomb every decade or so, meddling in South and Central America, paying for the genocide of Palestine, and (economically the most important, unfortunately) increasingly erratic trade policy makes dealing with the us a pain in the ass. Edit: how could I forget the fact that the prez and his government are nakedly child predators? That ought to ding their reputation on the world stage a bit more than obesity and gun violence permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Eeh. These kinds of global opinion polls are rarely worth anything, but I can see it being largely true. China has been making a real push to expand their soft power and it's been pretty effective - see opinions on lemmy about china's genocides for an example. It's boosted opinions about them quite a bit at a time when the US is taking it's rep for a relaxing drive off a cliff. The US rep will almost undoubtedly recover if/when we oust trump though - he just makes it so damn easy to hate him specifically, and his obsessive drive to make everything about himself has largely (and sometimes correctly) shifted the social burden of the fault for US crimes from the country as a whole to him and his cronies specifically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fizzle 3 points 3 months ago I think insights regarding trends et cetera can be drawn from this poll. Interesting point about the US behavior being tied to Trump's brand. Australia's relationship with the US has taken a hit. The government is still keen to cosy up because it's our only chance to maintain resistance to China's influence. However, the public sentiment on the US isn't very positive at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fizzle 3 points 3 months ago I think insights regarding trends et cetera can be drawn from this poll. Interesting point about the US behavior being tied to Trump's brand. Australia's relationship with the US has taken a hit. The government is still keen to cosy up because it's our only chance to maintain resistance to China's influence. However, the public sentiment on the US isn't very positive at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago* Then you live in America. I do not, and buddy, we do not like your government. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago It's true up here in Canada. Fuck America. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fizzle 4 points 3 months ago (10 children) LOL. I don't. The US is cooked. Yes China are assholes too, just less-so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] fizzle 5 points 3 months ago Who is more or less of an asshole is a subjective question. Theres no question that the Chinese are assholes, but are they moreso than the US? In the last few years the US has not only abandoned any semblance of a response to climate change, but they've doubled down on open hostility to renewable projects. As a global leader, this provides cover to every other country who can point to the US as a wealthy greenhouse gas emitter and say "what's the point of us reducing our emissions when the US is actively increasing theirs?" Would you like to talk about how much harm this will cause in the coming decades? What is the death toll likely to be, and how many people are going to be subjected to poverty and displaced due to famine? The other salient issue is the current energy instability due to Trump's belligerence with Iran. In the US it might just cost more to fill up your car with fuel. Theres a lot of regions in south East asia, where most fuel from the strait of Hormuz goes, that are enduring completely unnecessary energy crisis right now. Would you like to talk about how many farms cant afford fertiliser because of US arrogance and what the impact of that might be in the coming months? Or perhaps what it might be line to have a small restaurant who simply can not buy LPG due to shortages? Finally, with the US breathless support of Israel theres no moral high-sounding to be had by pointing to China's human rights abuses. Growing up in Australia in the 90s the US was always "bigger and better", now you're just assholes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (5 children) How many millions died in the Middle East because of the US in the last fifty years? And how many Falun Gong and Uighurs and Tibetans died because of China in the same time? Compare those numbers, mate. You may be surprised. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (3 children) You did not look it up, did you? We're talking about today. Which country is worse for the world today? If you want to bring up Mao, I could bring up Kissinger and Nixon's bombings of Laos, or the obliteration of the cities in the Korean War, or the United Fruit Company. See, I did not even mention South America in my question about the last fifty years. Look at the numbers, honestly compare. There have been millions of deaths in the Middle East from the US wars there. Sanctions have killed millions more. You have to realise that this actually happened if you want to honestly understand why people might see the US on the same level as China. It did not start with Trump. I do acknowledge Mao's killings, the killings of intellectuals and landlords and ethnic minorities who refused to submit, and dissidents who died in camps, and pregnant women given forced abortions, and gay people imprisoned for deviancy. However, that was not the point of this discussion. The point is that things have changed. The US is seen as the monster now, because it is more dangerous to other countries than China. Also, China's repression has slowed down a lot, so the increasing repression in the USA is alarming everyone who used to see the US as a reliable if warlike friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juli@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Are these enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_Mine_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Memorial_Day_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing P.S. Fuck China and Fuck USA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) No one cares about your whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago Kinda ridiculous to call it whataboutism when that's the point of the entire article, comparing the two. Though yes, the US is fucked right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] fizzle 5 points 3 months ago Who is more or less of an asshole is a subjective question. Theres no question that the Chinese are assholes, but are they moreso than the US? In the last few years the US has not only abandoned any semblance of a response to climate change, but they've doubled down on open hostility to renewable projects. As a global leader, this provides cover to every other country who can point to the US as a wealthy greenhouse gas emitter and say "what's the point of us reducing our emissions when the US is actively increasing theirs?" Would you like to talk about how much harm this will cause in the coming decades? What is the death toll likely to be, and how many people are going to be subjected to poverty and displaced due to famine? The other salient issue is the current energy instability due to Trump's belligerence with Iran. In the US it might just cost more to fill up your car with fuel. Theres a lot of regions in south East asia, where most fuel from the strait of Hormuz goes, that are enduring completely unnecessary energy crisis right now. Would you like to talk about how many farms cant afford fertiliser because of US arrogance and what the impact of that might be in the coming months? Or perhaps what it might be line to have a small restaurant who simply can not buy LPG due to shortages? Finally, with the US breathless support of Israel theres no moral high-sounding to be had by pointing to China's human rights abuses. Growing up in Australia in the 90s the US was always "bigger and better", now you're just assholes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (5 children) How many millions died in the Middle East because of the US in the last fifty years? And how many Falun Gong and Uighurs and Tibetans died because of China in the same time? Compare those numbers, mate. You may be surprised. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (3 children) You did not look it up, did you? We're talking about today. Which country is worse for the world today? If you want to bring up Mao, I could bring up Kissinger and Nixon's bombings of Laos, or the obliteration of the cities in the Korean War, or the United Fruit Company. See, I did not even mention South America in my question about the last fifty years. Look at the numbers, honestly compare. There have been millions of deaths in the Middle East from the US wars there. Sanctions have killed millions more. You have to realise that this actually happened if you want to honestly understand why people might see the US on the same level as China. It did not start with Trump. I do acknowledge Mao's killings, the killings of intellectuals and landlords and ethnic minorities who refused to submit, and dissidents who died in camps, and pregnant women given forced abortions, and gay people imprisoned for deviancy. However, that was not the point of this discussion. The point is that things have changed. The US is seen as the monster now, because it is more dangerous to other countries than China. Also, China's repression has slowed down a lot, so the increasing repression in the USA is alarming everyone who used to see the US as a reliable if warlike friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juli@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Are these enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_Mine_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Memorial_Day_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing P.S. Fuck China and Fuck USA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) No one cares about your whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago Kinda ridiculous to call it whataboutism when that's the point of the entire article, comparing the two. Though yes, the US is fucked right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fizzle 5 points 3 months ago Who is more or less of an asshole is a subjective question. Theres no question that the Chinese are assholes, but are they moreso than the US? In the last few years the US has not only abandoned any semblance of a response to climate change, but they've doubled down on open hostility to renewable projects. As a global leader, this provides cover to every other country who can point to the US as a wealthy greenhouse gas emitter and say "what's the point of us reducing our emissions when the US is actively increasing theirs?" Would you like to talk about how much harm this will cause in the coming decades? What is the death toll likely to be, and how many people are going to be subjected to poverty and displaced due to famine? The other salient issue is the current energy instability due to Trump's belligerence with Iran. In the US it might just cost more to fill up your car with fuel. Theres a lot of regions in south East asia, where most fuel from the strait of Hormuz goes, that are enduring completely unnecessary energy crisis right now. Would you like to talk about how many farms cant afford fertiliser because of US arrogance and what the impact of that might be in the coming months? Or perhaps what it might be line to have a small restaurant who simply can not buy LPG due to shortages? Finally, with the US breathless support of Israel theres no moral high-sounding to be had by pointing to China's human rights abuses. Growing up in Australia in the 90s the US was always "bigger and better", now you're just assholes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (5 children) How many millions died in the Middle East because of the US in the last fifty years? And how many Falun Gong and Uighurs and Tibetans died because of China in the same time? Compare those numbers, mate. You may be surprised. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (3 children) You did not look it up, did you? We're talking about today. Which country is worse for the world today? If you want to bring up Mao, I could bring up Kissinger and Nixon's bombings of Laos, or the obliteration of the cities in the Korean War, or the United Fruit Company. See, I did not even mention South America in my question about the last fifty years. Look at the numbers, honestly compare. There have been millions of deaths in the Middle East from the US wars there. Sanctions have killed millions more. You have to realise that this actually happened if you want to honestly understand why people might see the US on the same level as China. It did not start with Trump. I do acknowledge Mao's killings, the killings of intellectuals and landlords and ethnic minorities who refused to submit, and dissidents who died in camps, and pregnant women given forced abortions, and gay people imprisoned for deviancy. However, that was not the point of this discussion. The point is that things have changed. The US is seen as the monster now, because it is more dangerous to other countries than China. Also, China's repression has slowed down a lot, so the increasing repression in the USA is alarming everyone who used to see the US as a reliable if warlike friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juli@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Are these enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_Mine_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Memorial_Day_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing P.S. Fuck China and Fuck USA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (3 children) You did not look it up, did you? We're talking about today. Which country is worse for the world today? If you want to bring up Mao, I could bring up Kissinger and Nixon's bombings of Laos, or the obliteration of the cities in the Korean War, or the United Fruit Company. See, I did not even mention South America in my question about the last fifty years. Look at the numbers, honestly compare. There have been millions of deaths in the Middle East from the US wars there. Sanctions have killed millions more. You have to realise that this actually happened if you want to honestly understand why people might see the US on the same level as China. It did not start with Trump. I do acknowledge Mao's killings, the killings of intellectuals and landlords and ethnic minorities who refused to submit, and dissidents who died in camps, and pregnant women given forced abortions, and gay people imprisoned for deviancy. However, that was not the point of this discussion. The point is that things have changed. The US is seen as the monster now, because it is more dangerous to other countries than China. Also, China's repression has slowed down a lot, so the increasing repression in the USA is alarming everyone who used to see the US as a reliable if warlike friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juli@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Are these enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_Mine_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Memorial_Day_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing P.S. Fuck China and Fuck USA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (3 children) You did not look it up, did you? We're talking about today. Which country is worse for the world today? If you want to bring up Mao, I could bring up Kissinger and Nixon's bombings of Laos, or the obliteration of the cities in the Korean War, or the United Fruit Company. See, I did not even mention South America in my question about the last fifty years. Look at the numbers, honestly compare. There have been millions of deaths in the Middle East from the US wars there. Sanctions have killed millions more. You have to realise that this actually happened if you want to honestly understand why people might see the US on the same level as China. It did not start with Trump. I do acknowledge Mao's killings, the killings of intellectuals and landlords and ethnic minorities who refused to submit, and dissidents who died in camps, and pregnant women given forced abortions, and gay people imprisoned for deviancy. However, that was not the point of this discussion. The point is that things have changed. The US is seen as the monster now, because it is more dangerous to other countries than China. Also, China's repression has slowed down a lot, so the increasing repression in the USA is alarming everyone who used to see the US as a reliable if warlike friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juli@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Are these enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_Mine_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Memorial_Day_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing P.S. Fuck China and Fuck USA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] juli@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Are these enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_Mine_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Memorial_Day_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing P.S. Fuck China and Fuck USA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] juli@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) Are these enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_Mine_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Memorial_Day_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing P.S. Fuck China and Fuck USA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) No one cares about your whataboutism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago Kinda ridiculous to call it whataboutism when that's the point of the entire article, comparing the two. Though yes, the US is fucked right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago Kinda ridiculous to call it whataboutism when that's the point of the entire article, comparing the two. Though yes, the US is fucked right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago* Not like they're saying it in English. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tortina_original@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Are you an American, by any chance? permalink fedilink source parent